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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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I'd save and get the yank
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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Well my Hughes converter worked pretty good yesterday.. got my 3600 lb car to a 10.80 with a n/a 402. 60 foot's were in the 1.52 to 1.54 range all day, adn I was overpowering the hooser qtp's every run, they spun the first 5 feet every pass... but still got the front tires in the air every pass too, even with the spin.

Converter drives great on the street too.. it's a little looser then most people would consider putting in a car (stalls to 6100 on the transbrake) but will stay around 2500 while driving around on the street... which I find more then acceptable for a car with a th400 and 4.10 gears.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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here's a quote from a mfr listed in the poll. sounds good to me...

THE TRUTH ABOUT WARRANTY AND QUALITY
Over the past couple of years a number of torque converter rebuilders as well as some “Johnny come lately” start up converter rebuilders have entered the high performance street car torque converter market. Both the existing and newbie companies have tried to get in this segment of the market before only to fail due to the drastic differences between racecar torque converters and high performance street torque converters. xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx has specialized in this market for more than 11 years. Now we are seeing all of these so called expert torque converter builders reappear with there low prices and short warranties. One of the key signs of quality is the length of a products warranty. A warranty shorter than 2 years for a torque converter is a joke! Would you buy a car with a 90 day warranty? The answer is a simple “NO”! The high performance streetcar has more demanding requirements than any race converter. It has to perform in all kinds of weather, temperatures and uses. 1. A typical race torque converter will never see 1000 miles in a lifetime of use while a high performance street torque converter will probably see 100,000 miles in a lifetime of use. 2. A race torque converter will be heated up and cooled less than 1000 times while a high performance street torque converter will see many 1000’s of heat and cool cycles in the lifetime of usage. 3. A race torque converter does not use a lockup clutch but a lockup clutch is one of the most important units in a high performance street torque converter. The typical race torque converter needs to be freshened up every year while a high performance street converter never gets freshened up unless the customer wants to make a stall change or has a transmission failure. 4. A race torque converter operates in an rpm range of 4000 - 8000 rpm with very poor low and mid range capabilities. A high performance street torque converter needs to operate in rpm ranges from 1500 - 6000 rpm with high efficiency and torque multiplication. 5. A race torque converter is only used under full throttle conditions while a high performance street torque converter is used to race, drive short distances, drive long distances, etc. plus be dependable. Most racecars get transported to the track while most high performance streetcars get driven to the track. These are just a few of the reasons why quality is so critical when designing and building a high performance street torque converter. Most companies jumping into the street torque converter market are still using 1960’s technology. Just because a company has been building race torque converters for 50 years does not mean it can build a high performance street torque converter. Most race torque converters are still being manufactured using ancient technology. By ancient technology I mean stock front covers with welded on rings and pilots, spacer plates to get the impeller hub in the right location, rebroached stock turbine hubs that end up with inferior thin walls, handmade stators with incorrect vane geometry, after thought brazing of turbine vanes that cause imbalance and disturb oil flow, 4 and 6 cylinder low capacity lockup clutches and OEM type friction material. New technology includes steel billet front covers, high capacity clutches designed for V8 engines, friction material that will handle the rigors of pulse width modulation, impeller hub mountings designed for the application, thick walled turbine hubs designed for the application and turbines with 31 specially designed furnace brazed braces to prevent failure and not disturb oil flow. These new technologies are an absolute necessity for high performance street torque converters to be dependable and to last. The billet front cover was designed to allow for exact perpendicularity between pilot and the mounting pads and bolt circle. This is virtually impossible using a stock 245 torque converter cover due to all of the distortion of adding a mounting ring and pilot. The billet cover is also designed to allow for more clutch friction contact area something that is impossible with a stock type front cover. A stock 12” torque converter that originally came in the car has 19.7921” of contact area, a stock 245 mm torque converter cover has 16.4867” of contact area and our steel billet cover and special clutch has 37.1101” of contact area. For a 245 mm torque converter clutch to hold a modified V8 it will need to have 40 percent more area of contact than a 12” torque converter. Yes, the 245 mm clutch will hold for a short period of time but not for very long. This might be one of the reasons for the short warranty our competitors offer. If these 245 mm OEM stock torque converter parts are so good why doesn’t GM use these parts in a stock low horse powered LS1? The other part of this scenario I hear all the time is “The warranty is only 90 days but I will take care of you for a year”. This is another comical statement because the person making this statement is probably not the owner and may not even be working there next month. REMEMBER!!!! All company polices are in writing, if you do not read “1 YEAR WARRANTY” then you do not have a 1 year warranty. xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx is so confident in the QUALITY of our product that we offer a “2 YEAR UNCONDITIONAL WARRANTY” in writing.


it's alot to read, but interesting nonetheless.. the site this is on has a few more pages of insight on TC's and why "theirs" are better.. after owning one of the others on here & knowing people that have had this brand and SWEAR by it, I am sold, ordering a custom built one tomorrow, which by the way, they don't charge extra for a specific stall like some others...
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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that right there is why I run a hughes in my car... they've been building good quality stuff for YEARS and stand behind their product 100%.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
that right there is why I run a hughes in my car... they've been building good quality stuff for YEARS and stand behind their product 100%.
That right there is the reason i spoke with Jack at Precision today and ordered a 3400stall 10.5" 3disc Vigilante...
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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I might just follow suit Tony... Only w/ a 3200 or so. Lemme know how that thing does for ya
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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will do, by the end of next week should have it in, may be here by monday.. Dam Thanksgiving Holiday screwing this up!!
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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I know what you mean.. I prolly won't even have mine back till the week after myself.... Have to make a trek midway up to the middle of Canada next week... Ewwww
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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protorque 2800.. its so good my car feels faster and i havent even received the converter yet.. just kidding but ill tell you how it is once i get it.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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went from a street fighter 3000 to a yank ss4000, car feels completely different, in a much much better way, YANK IT AND GET OFF QUICKER! lol i know im not the only on that thought that slogan of theres is hilarious, sorry YANK my mind is in the gutter
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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VIG!!!
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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My vig picked me up .23 (1.67)in the 60' and .41 (12.540 @107+) in the qtr and added 2+mph.. this was just the first time out..still getting a feel for it..

VIG!! all the way...
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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My friend has a yank and it launches nasty I would vote for it.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyGXP
My vig picked me up .23 (1.67)in the 60' and .41 (12.540 @107+) in the qtr and added 2+mph.. this was just the first time out..still getting a feel for it..

VIG!! all the way...
awesome!
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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update, track day last Sunday (F'in 55f outside, where's my -2800'DA?) on Street tires still went 12.6 @106 w/1.80 & 1.76 60'.. VIG is the Best...Period
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Geek
I know of a local gent who had a VERY similar problem with Yank, as a matter of fact I heard that he had TCI rebuild the Yank for him. I called Kevin Winstead at TCI and got him to send me a TCI SSF that had been tightened up a touch for N2O. I am not sure who some folks here have been dealing with at TCI but I can tell you first hand that Kevin is a stand up guy and has won me over when it comes to customer service. He is wiling to go the extra mile to make their customers happy. I am still running this convertor and have a best 60'ft time of 1.53 on a COMPLETELY stock suspension hitting a 150-shot out of the hole with 3.42 gears. Now I run PI Vigilante series in my Turbo Buicks and love them as well. My GN has a best of 1.55-60 ft. Hope this helps.

Jim C.
you know thats weird....MY CONVETER TOO. My buddy had it in his car. It fell apart(the converter not the car) and Yank wouldnt warrenty it so he called TCI and they said hell send it in...they refreshed it to 4400 and I bought it...
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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I think I posted a few pages back, but my 3600 Vig has been flawless since 1996! It dropped 5 tenths of of my ET over my 11" converter from LPE and picked up 1 mph...I had it freshened almost 3 years ago only because I had my trans rebuilt and wanted everything perfect. The folks at PI couldn't believe how good the converter looked after being in the car for 9 hard years of DD and racing...I'm a long term Vig test dummy...Great product..

--Alan
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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VIG all the way i had my experience with that damn pinky thing so i could tell ya she Drives like stock & Flys like Rock when ya step on it

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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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3600 vig baby....
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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GOOD

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(couldn't "break" the VIG love chain!)
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