Converters bad for stock 4L60E's?
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Converters bad for stock 4L60E's?
I ballooned my stock converter so I'm having a new one put in as well as having my 4L60E rebuilt while hes at it. Anyway the trans guy told my dad that if I went with a higher than stock converter such as (fuddle 2800) it would put stress on my trans since its not a built up 4L60E so my dad is real skeptical of me putting anything but a stock converter back into the car. Is this true?
#2
You need an aftermarket cooler and possibly a shift kit. Most bolt-on cars are running this setup. You will be fine. Heat and HP kill these transmissions and if you aren't running insane amounts of HP you will be fine with just a cooler. What are your plans down the road? I have had my converter (vig 2800) for 6 years and 40K miles with no problems. I bought the converter used also. I bet you the guy who gave you advice works on older cars. 2800 is a small converter for these cars with lockup. There are some running 4000+ stalls with a cooler, shift kit and basic boltons with no problems.
Last edited by BORN2LOSE; 09-21-2006 at 03:00 PM.
#3
Its bad because of heat, but a tranny cooler would help with that.
And actually Ive heard that besides the heat, having a high stall converter help absorbe some shock, like a pillow for the tranny..(but don't quote me on that)
And actually Ive heard that besides the heat, having a high stall converter help absorbe some shock, like a pillow for the tranny..(but don't quote me on that)
Last edited by JDJP; 09-21-2006 at 02:57 PM.
#4
I had 100,000 miles on my trans when I swapped it out for a built tranny. Shifted perfect the day I pulled it. 65,000 miles of that were with a 4200 stall. Installed a cooler with the converter. Cooler was well worth the $50.
Bone stock tranny. No shift kit. It was a stock internal, NA car so I didn't hit it with too much power.
Bone stock tranny. No shift kit. It was a stock internal, NA car so I didn't hit it with too much power.
#5
A converter with a really high STR will put a lot more
input torque to the trans. Two ways; letting you get
up onto torque peak, and multiplying it more. And
often as not, torque management is removed too.
There is a limit to how hard you can beat on it.
Guys who run really high stall speeds also rev the
motor higher as a rule. That's also asking for it.
Hauling down the flywheel mass from 6500 to 5000
RPM against some strongly multiplied torque, is not an
easy job for the frictions.
input torque to the trans. Two ways; letting you get
up onto torque peak, and multiplying it more. And
often as not, torque management is removed too.
There is a limit to how hard you can beat on it.
Guys who run really high stall speeds also rev the
motor higher as a rule. That's also asking for it.
Hauling down the flywheel mass from 6500 to 5000
RPM against some strongly multiplied torque, is not an
easy job for the frictions.