Help me pick a Converter!
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Help me pick a Converter! I have a 98ss with a lid K&n and loudmouth.Has 38k on it. I have to say $ is very important. I lke to street race and may never go to the track. I have F1's now but plan to get nittos. Im leaning towards TCI streetfighter. Stall around 3200.I dont do much highway driving at all. I want 0-60 results mostly. TCI converters are $450. Does Yank have any close to that. thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Persicion Industies Vigalante, hands down <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
3200 should be perfect and good for .5 off 1/4 ets
A auto with a stall and some Nitto's will rock a high hp 6spd. on the street anyday,all day.
3200 should be perfect and good for .5 off 1/4 ets
A auto with a stall and some Nitto's will rock a high hp 6spd. on the street anyday,all day.
Re: Help me pick a Converter! If you are street racing for $$$ I'd get a ST 3500. It will more than pay for itself. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
For stoplight racing and low budget, I'd really consider a used SY 3500. Call Yank and ask if they have any trade-ins; Yank opens them up and inspects them and it could save a few hundred dollars off the new price. I'd go for a Yank 3200 or a Vig 2800 for a new converter.
For stoplight racing and low budget, I'd really consider a used SY 3500. Call Yank and ask if they have any trade-ins; Yank opens them up and inspects them and it could save a few hundred dollars off the new price. I'd go for a Yank 3200 or a Vig 2800 for a new converter.
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! People talk crap about TCI converters and dont no what they are talking about.They go by what they hear,I installed a TCI street fighter converter in my 2000 trans am and gained .5 tenths in 1/4 If i didnt have a 273 gear ratio i would have went with the super street fighter.For the money ill take it .But you make the choice your money.
Re: Help me pick a Converter! Johnny, You're the first person I've heard of that saw less than .5 from the 3200. Those results do suck. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> I'd call Mike and see what he would do. It's the same housing as the SY 3500, so maybe that conversion would be an option. Better would be to trade it for a ST 3500 / 3800 or are you ready to move up to a manly converter like a YTP 4000 series <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Hehehe...Check out these threads for my future plans. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I don't think I'll need to rely on a converter as much for torque multiplication. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=18;t=001253
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=18;t=001023
In all fairness to the y3200 the weather conditions were horrendous the day I ran it and I think the trans was a little warm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Thats good to know that it could possibly be turned into a SY3500. That might help sell it if I really need to get rid of it.
Thanks Joel
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<small>[ July 03, 2002, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=18;t=001253
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=18;t=001023
In all fairness to the y3200 the weather conditions were horrendous the day I ran it and I think the trans was a little warm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Thats good to know that it could possibly be turned into a SY3500. That might help sell it if I really need to get rid of it.
Thanks Joel
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! The streetfighter gives you a gain off the line but thats about it . I would not go with a TCI again , my streetfighter came with an undersize snout that wasnt even smoothed off properly , and the snout is 4mm too short compared to the stock converter , after close inspection with the trans out of the car , the converter snout is only contacting half way on the 2 front pump lugs in the trans before it bottoms out in the tranny <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
So when its bolted up to the flexplate ( as it pulls forward when tightened) it would barely be located by a few mm on the 2 lugs in the front pump of the trans . Saying that I had it in there for 10,000 ks before the front pump grenaded into peices . Yeah its cheap but you guys in the US I dont know why you would even consider it when for only an extra $300 you get a well built , proven yank or vig .
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<small>[ July 03, 2002, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: r8ls1 ]</small>
So when its bolted up to the flexplate ( as it pulls forward when tightened) it would barely be located by a few mm on the 2 lugs in the front pump of the trans . Saying that I had it in there for 10,000 ks before the front pump grenaded into peices . Yeah its cheap but you guys in the US I dont know why you would even consider it when for only an extra $300 you get a well built , proven yank or vig .
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Jerky boy ? dude it came with a too short snout , it might have been a bad one but it cost me $1300 and it needed a new snout welded on to go back in a car ( not in my car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> ) . No complaints about the performance for a 10.5" 3000rpm converter , thats all it will give . Im going to go for a Yank TP and hope it is at least as quality as the stock GM converter the car came with .
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! TCI? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I would rather have a stock verter and concentrate on other mods ,than that POS, TCI/LS1 crap.
Junk
Really concentrate on either a vig or a yank. A SY3500 would do an aspiring fellow who street races occasionaly VERY good.
A ST3500 or ST3800 would be more than adequate, but you would need better tires.
I would rather have a stock verter and concentrate on other mods ,than that POS, TCI/LS1 crap.
Junk
Really concentrate on either a vig or a yank. A SY3500 would do an aspiring fellow who street races occasionaly VERY good.
A ST3500 or ST3800 would be more than adequate, but you would need better tires.
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Get the ST3800. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> It will allow you to roll into the throttle relatively hard even with the F1s. Like Raughammer said you will need at least Nittos to take full advantage of it.
It will perform very well from a roll and isn't too bad for daily driving. There will be no more dead spots and the car will feel like it's pulling first gear even when your in third. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Sorry Ragtop, I had a Y3200 and this is all I have to say. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> .3 at the track and nothing from a roll. It's only good point is that it feels like stock. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
John
PS - How high can the y3200 be restalled too? It just needed a higher stall and some more shift extension. I guess I fell into that "I don't want too loose a converter" trap my first time around.
I still have it and would get rid of it cheap.
98SS Blackattack - I would get rid of it CHEAP and then you could have Yank refurbish it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<small>[ July 03, 2002, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
It will perform very well from a roll and isn't too bad for daily driving. There will be no more dead spots and the car will feel like it's pulling first gear even when your in third. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Sorry Ragtop, I had a Y3200 and this is all I have to say. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> .3 at the track and nothing from a roll. It's only good point is that it feels like stock. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
John
PS - How high can the y3200 be restalled too? It just needed a higher stall and some more shift extension. I guess I fell into that "I don't want too loose a converter" trap my first time around.
I still have it and would get rid of it cheap.
98SS Blackattack - I would get rid of it CHEAP and then you could have Yank refurbish it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by boomcase:
<strong>People talk crap about TCI converters and dont no what they are talking about.They go by what they hear,I installed a TCI street fighter converter in my 2000 trans am and gained .5 tenths in 1/4 If i didnt have a 273 gear ratio i would have went with the super street fighter.For the money ill take it .But you make the choice your money.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL, ever seen the inside of a LS1/TCI converter? JUNK *** parts. You might as well just run a GM S-15 converter and same your money. It's about the same thing. JUNK.
Ever had one apart and compared it to a REAL converter? TCI/LS1 verters are junk.
Sorry dude, I DO know what i am talking about, i have SEEN the two side by side. I know what parts go in both (or all three)
TCI = junk. I would be ashamed to sell one to another racer. I would feel as though I was selling him junk. Cause that is just what it is. Junk.
Hey, prove me wrong. I would love it if there was a good, proven alternative to the BIG two. But as it stands, there is'nt. (Not that I have seen)
TCI = junk.
But hey, peace and love dude. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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<strong>People talk crap about TCI converters and dont no what they are talking about.They go by what they hear,I installed a TCI street fighter converter in my 2000 trans am and gained .5 tenths in 1/4 If i didnt have a 273 gear ratio i would have went with the super street fighter.For the money ill take it .But you make the choice your money.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL, ever seen the inside of a LS1/TCI converter? JUNK *** parts. You might as well just run a GM S-15 converter and same your money. It's about the same thing. JUNK.
Ever had one apart and compared it to a REAL converter? TCI/LS1 verters are junk.
Sorry dude, I DO know what i am talking about, i have SEEN the two side by side. I know what parts go in both (or all three)
TCI = junk. I would be ashamed to sell one to another racer. I would feel as though I was selling him junk. Cause that is just what it is. Junk.
Hey, prove me wrong. I would love it if there was a good, proven alternative to the BIG two. But as it stands, there is'nt. (Not that I have seen)
TCI = junk.
But hey, peace and love dude. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Hey Raughammer u can talk TCI crap all u want bottom line is 40% of all LS1 have piston slap , or some other noises coming from them ,dont get me wrong the LS1 is a strong performer that makes power But like u said DUDE CRAP IS CRAP.GM fix for there problems is well wait let me think about this a second oh yaa NOTHING? Or maybe teflon coated pistons . So BS is still BS dude so as the LS1 engine says knock, knock, knock. Peace and love .
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by boomcase:
<strong>Hey Raughammer u can talk TCI crap all u want bottom line is 40% of all LS1 have piston slap , or some other noises coming from them ,dont get me wrong the LS1 is a strong performer that makes power But like u said DUDE CRAP IS CRAP.GM fix for there problems is well wait let me think about this a second oh yaa NOTHING? Or maybe teflon coated pistons . So BS is still BS dude so as the LS1 engine says knock, knock, knock. Peace and love .</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What in gods name are you talking about and how does any of that relate to tci converters sucking??
I've had several and my favorte 'small' converter has to be the vig2800....it is a definate over achiever. Its awesome for its size. Bit converter gotta go tp4400
As far as installing a converter to gain top end.....get a nice yank and you'll most defilantly gain a few mph on the top end.
As far the ls1 being crap.....go to the track sometime and watch **** fly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>Hey Raughammer u can talk TCI crap all u want bottom line is 40% of all LS1 have piston slap , or some other noises coming from them ,dont get me wrong the LS1 is a strong performer that makes power But like u said DUDE CRAP IS CRAP.GM fix for there problems is well wait let me think about this a second oh yaa NOTHING? Or maybe teflon coated pistons . So BS is still BS dude so as the LS1 engine says knock, knock, knock. Peace and love .</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What in gods name are you talking about and how does any of that relate to tci converters sucking??
I've had several and my favorte 'small' converter has to be the vig2800....it is a definate over achiever. Its awesome for its size. Bit converter gotta go tp4400
As far as installing a converter to gain top end.....get a nice yank and you'll most defilantly gain a few mph on the top end.
As far the ls1 being crap.....go to the track sometime and watch **** fly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! btw.....i had 2.73's last year. Stock converter..... 8.90 @ 82 mph. Added the vig 2800 along with nittos and eventually ran 8.03 @ 89 with no other mods.....all at a DA of 3000ft.
and the nittos weren't needed in the 8.9 passes due to traction not being an issue. I never got a pass that didn't have some wheel spin is the only reason I din't break into the 7's.
Almost 9 tenths and 7 mph is a very large gain.....for the 1/8 mile.
Oh...and the 8.90 was in cool march air and the 8.0's came in may and june.
and the nittos weren't needed in the 8.9 passes due to traction not being an issue. I never got a pass that didn't have some wheel spin is the only reason I din't break into the 7's.
Almost 9 tenths and 7 mph is a very large gain.....for the 1/8 mile.
Oh...and the 8.90 was in cool march air and the 8.0's came in may and june.
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Just so you guys know , I saw Dustins car do it , The little 2800 kicks *** !!! I have the sy3500 and it is NOT a good track converter , its launches way to soft !!! awsome on the street though ! Good luck with whatever you decide !!!
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Re: Help me pick a Converter! Yea billy...its not the hot setup for the track but you could make some loot street racing with it. I bet you could run within a couple tenths of your track times on the steet with nittos. Now thats awesome. My pos now probably wouldn't run within 2 seconds of its of its track time on the street.
Heck billy......the sy is a high $$$$$ converter..yank it and get a st3500 or similar. You could probably bout pay for it for what you'd get out of the sy. But days of hooking awesome on the street would be over.
btw....as it pretains to this thread....if I couldn't afford a new yank or vig I would keep an eye out in the classifieds. Used ones go for about what the tci's go for new.
Heck billy......the sy is a high $$$$$ converter..yank it and get a st3500 or similar. You could probably bout pay for it for what you'd get out of the sy. But days of hooking awesome on the street would be over.
btw....as it pretains to this thread....if I couldn't afford a new yank or vig I would keep an eye out in the classifieds. Used ones go for about what the tci's go for new.