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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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I know yank and vig are very good but what about art carr and fuddle...anyone have any opinions?? Ive been in a 6speed most my life but recently changed..
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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I love my Fuddle 3400. It has worked great for me over the past year.
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There is no doubt ART CARR is and excllent company and they have been around for many many years
I would also suggest you look at ou converter selection to
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Thanks for the input! Ill check you guys out too!
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Art carr made some converters for Fuddle
so not much of a diff there
You can check us out also
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Hey yank, I really like your converters on your website the PT's are the only lockup converters?? All the rest are non lock up?? Is this bad?? I had a TH400 in my 98 LS1 powered cam n20 car, and it wasnt to bad...what conv. would you recommend for a trex full bolt on n2o car with some weight reduction..PS i like a tight conv. for street.. like roll racing..
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Hey yank, I really like your converters on your website the PT's are the only lockup converters?? All the rest are non lock up?? Is this bad?? I had a TH400 in my 98 LS1 powered cam n20 car, and it wasnt to bad...what conv. would you recommend for a trex full bolt on n2o car with some weight reduction..PS i like a tight conv. for street.. like roll racing..

only the race units are non lock up models the PT SS and others are indeed lock up styles
give me a call at 775 826 9955 and I can give you more info
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Most of the yank converters for the 4L60e are lock-up.

YPT4000 would be your best bet if the spray is a 100 shot. Great converter for NA racing from a roll. If you're going to push 200 shot, a PYE 3600 would be a good option.

Art Carr has a decent reputation but the only good results I've seen from them in LS1s has been on the very top end performance wise or in a TH400.

Fuddle was a sponsor and ran into some problems and was dropped. The business is trying to make a comeback.
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Sounds good!!
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Go Vig or Yank, both tried and true.
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I've got an Art Carr converter in my car and love it. I can creep uphill at idle without throttle input, just like stock. It pulls pretty nice up top too - much more fun to drive than a few other brand 3600-3800 stalls I've driven. I recently had it gone through after a trans failure (see next paragraph) by ATI here in Baltimore. ATI said it was one of the nicest converters they've ever seen...

Just don't get a built 4L60E from Art Carr. Apparently they press on some sleeve over the input drum/shaft, which was the likely culprit in breaking my input drum clean off the shaft
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i had an art carr converter and 4l60e but i added that to the list of 5 4l60e's that have busted. ummm basically i thought the converter sucked it was suppose to be a 3800stall and wouldnt footbrake to 2000 i took it out and put in a yank pt4000 and loved it until the tranny broke and a buddy of mine pulled it apart to rebuild it for me and saw that there wherent to many aftermarket parts in it just a few things like cervo and what not. i believe part of my reason was cause i ordered it from art carr in abalene(sp) texas and that was supposibly the art carr that the owner sold to a group of investers and i guess only owns 1 shop left in california so that didnt turn out to well for me. i have had great luck with yank and now i am going with a rossler th350 and an ATI 8" 3800stall converter
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I ordered my fuddle converter last Friday and it showed up today (Thursday). Thats what I'm talkin about.

I haven't seen one story on here of someone WHO ACTUALLY RAN a fuddle and had it break on them. I have seen many folks who love them!
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I ordered my fuddle converter last Friday and it showed up today (Thursday). Thats what I'm talkin about.

I haven't seen one story on here of someone WHO ACTUALLY RAN a fuddle and had it break on them. I have seen many folks who love them!
Mine failed after a few thousand miles.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....4&postcount=43

Try a search.. Fuddle were dumped as a sponsor they are soo bad.
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9,000 trouble free miles on my Fuddle TC.
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Originally Posted by Yank
Art carr made some converters for Fuddle
so not much of a diff there
Actually, this is not true at all. Sorry.

Last edited by 1jfuddle; Dec 11, 2006 at 01:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by NickcZ28
I know yank and vig are very good but what about art carr and fuddle...anyone have any opinions?? Ive been in a 6speed most my life but recently changed..
They are both ******* junk.
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Sounds good!!
TP3800 FTW! I had a TP4000 in my g ride and i sprayed a .067 dry kit on it. That bitch went fast!
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I haven't seen one story on here of someone WHO ACTUALLY RAN a fuddle and had it break on them. I have seen many folks who love them!
There are numerous folks that have had their fuddles take a crap out on them. Or there are several folks that are realizing how ineffeicent their converters are. Either way (same as any product) you're going to have people that love the product and some that don't. Fuddle does one thing that Yank/Vig don't, they offer a low priced (alternative) converter to a web based clientel. I guess one of the biggest infuances you should look @ is this. Maybe there's a reaons there aren't any Fuddles in that group?

BTW, it's nice to see fuddle is back on-line (not as a sponsor though) maybe they can give some facts about what has transpired over the past 6 months. Seeing how they're talking about their great customer service on other forums, maybe we @ LS1tech can get some of that too, or at least some explinations?
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Originally Posted by zspot98
There are numerous folks that have had their fuddles take a crap out on them. Or there are several folks that are realizing how ineffeicent their converters are. Either way (same as any product) you're going to have people that love the product and some that don't. Fuddle does one thing that Yank/Vig don't, they offer a low priced (alternative) converter to a web based clientel. I guess one of the biggest infuances you should look @ is this. Maybe there's a reaons there aren't any Fuddles in that group?

BTW, it's nice to see fuddle is back on-line (not as a sponsor though) maybe they can give some facts about what has transpired over the past 6 months. Seeing how they're talking about their great customer service on other forums, maybe we @ LS1tech can get some of that too, or at least some explinations?
Well I havent really seen anybody say they ahve had a problem with their Fuddle other than the custoemr service complaints. Mine is great and has never had a problem.

and there is at least one Fuddle on that list. MNRO hasa Fuddle. And if you really want to see fast - check out SR71 and his Fuddle -- 9.3!
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