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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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I an putting in a ss3600 stall, and i bought a deep pan, and i know i am gonna need a cooler. Which is a good brand to run for a tranny cooler, and how is everybody running their coolers. running through the radiotar to the cooler to the tranny, or just the cooler to the tranny. More info the better. Oh yea some ideas of mounting spots(pics) would be great also.
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I an putting in a ss3600 stall, and i bought a deep pan, and i know i am gonna need a cooler. Which is a good brand to run for a tranny cooler, and how is everybody running their coolers. running through the radiotar to the cooler to the tranny, or just the cooler to the tranny. More info the better. Oh yea some ideas of mounting spots(pics) would be great also.
I ran a B&M 3600 GVW cooler and liked it. I just switched to Perma Cool since it was twice the size and came with a 1250 CFM fan. I ran mine from the trans to the radiator then to the cooler and then to the trans. I mounted my new cooler in front of my radiator since I deleted my A/C.
Otherwise You can get some brackets and mount it on the passenger side front right near the foglight.
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Perma Cool here with a 900 cfm fan that turns on automatically at 150 degrees.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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I have the biggest hayden one I could find at my local auto parts store. I routed the lines through the radiator, to cooler then back to tranny. I used the supplied plastic zip hold downs, Went through the condensor only here are some pics(not the greatest but you get the point). Good luck -Dave





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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Well i just trying to figure out which way would be better for running the cooler, and also location of the cooler helps too (thanks for the pics) i don't know if i want to delete my a/c because it is a street car,but i don't think i have ever used the a/c more than 3 times in the two years that i have owned the car. Anyone got any recommendations for coolers with and without fans. I was leaning more towards without fans, cost wise, and what other lines, and fittings would i need for to run the tranny cooler.
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Fittingds is optional, you can get by with normal hose. I used AN fittings and braided line.
B&M makes a good cooler, just make sure to get one suited for your car and make sure it is large enough. Perma cool also offers good coolers. Preference is the biggest part at this point.
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I woudn't delete the a/c, and the only fitting you will need is the one that comes off the radiator. Some small hose claps, some high temp/pressure rubber hose legnth will vary depending on location of cooler. I have never had one with an electric fan installed so I cannot answer that. But I do live in the desert and have never had a problem yet. Good luck -Dave
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skip the radiator cooler altogether. remove excess heat and a major restriction.
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skip the radiator cooler altogether. remove excess heat and a major restriction.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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really?? I was told that it was like "18% more cooling when it goes through the rad cooler first? also aren't the "stacked plate" style coolers more efficient, compared with the conventional tube/fin designs?
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really?? I was told that it was like "18% more cooling when it goes through the rad cooler first?

My car/tranny ran hotter than hell when I used the stock radiator cooler. Now with the external cooler/fan, all is good.
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really?? I was told that it was like "18% more cooling when it goes through the rad cooler first? also aren't the "stacked plate" style coolers more efficient, compared with the conventional tube/fin designs?
think about it. what is tranny fluid? basically an oil, right? oils insulate, or soak up heat. Ideal temp for your trans is about 175*, how hot does your car run? around 200? most run over 200* nowadays.

The trans fluid is going to soak up heat from your engine coolant. Have you ever seen a stock trans cooler outside the radiator? those suckers are TINY! The stock coolers would work probably as well as after market ones if they were surrounded by cool water all the time, but they aren't so they aren't very efficient.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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So montec your saying bypass the radiator altogether?
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If you by pass the radiator, then the fluid would go from the trans to the cooler back to the trans. It doesnt seem like that would cool enough at all. Part of the cooling comes from fluid moving and moving away from the trans.
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If you by pass the radiator, then the fluid would go from the trans to the cooler back to the trans. It doesn't seem like that would cool enough at all. Part of the cooling comes from fluid moving and moving away from the trans.

what do you think it does in the stock set up? it goes from the trans to the cooler to the trans. the stock cooler does not run the entire length of the rad. it only goes in a small area on the side with the connectors for the trans fluid lines.

an after market cooler would more than likely displace MORE trans fluid than the stocker.

hold on, i have some pics.

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Understanable but do you run it through both the aftermarket cooler, and the stocker to the trans, or just the aftermarket cooler to the trans. thats what i want to know, and which would be better.
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the cooler on the left is out of a mid 90's ford radiator, its hollow in the middle and the fluid goes around like a candy cane. The one on the right is actually one out of an lt1 car radiator, notice how FLAT it is.



now here is a SMALL after market oil cooler, notice the world of difference in size, its about 3-4 times as thick as the stocker and numerous times wider.

personally i would skip the stock cooler altogether. if you run the stock cooler first it majorly restricts fluid into the after market cooler. If you run the stock cooler second (which is a big no-no in the trans world), not only would it restrict fluid, it would also HEAT up the cooled fluid coming from the after market cooler. Like i said before, oil is an insulator, it soaks up the heat from your engine coolant.

i hope this helps.
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which is better, Tube/Fin or Stacked Plate? and I use a 160 T-Stat, my fans come on at 175* so my rad cooler probably helps, but on a stock setup (187T-stat I could see your point) btw my trans runs low 150*'s on a cruise in hot weather, in the cool it gets to 140* at idle I have seen 170 after beating the **** out of it, but it cooled right down within 2 or 3 minutes back to 140*
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