<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> $2500 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> And I thought the $500 core charge they charged me was expensive!!

 

WeatherGuy : Money is an issue <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Here is the short reply from Hughes :
To run the 4L80E transmission in your car it will cost around $5000.00 plus shipping
But as you said : TH400+GV o.d is in the same price range or close.....
my limit is 2800-3000$

 

LiquidSnake, dont give up hope man...my tranny cost me under $3700...and thats with the core charge, with shipping (to Florida), and with a custom "bulletproof" 3200 stall. Im telling you www.netgearhead.com has some kickass prices <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

<small>[ August 25, 2002, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: mexSSican ]</small>

 

so no one has any weights on any of the trannies I listed

T56?
TH400?

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LiquidSnake:
<strong>WeatherGuy : Money is an issue <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Here is the short reply from Hughes :
To run the 4L80E transmission in your car it will cost around $5000.00 plus shipping
But as you said : TH400+GV o.d is in the same price range or close.....
my limit is 2800-3000$</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A Mike Kurtz built 200-4R plus the other needed goodies is probably about $4500 total without installation, so that is still up there. You may be able to get a Gear Vendors TH350/400 with OD for less than that.

 

wow, i just jumped on netgearhead.com and there prices are very nice. i emailed them about a hardcore 200R4, but if they can rebuild my 4L60E and have it back in only 3-5 days...then its as good as done!

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by XLR8NSS:
<strong>The 4L60E can be built to hold up for a while behind 450+hp but, reliability is still an issue. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just got my 4L60E rebuild to handle 850 rwhp and 900 rwtq. It cost about $2900 without the core, but she is warranted to that level for 2 years. There is not one stock thing left in it. Even the inside bell housing was heat treated!

 

Who built that for you? That's the most I've heard any shop say one of these transmissions will hold. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Keep us informed on how it does.

Shoot me some info on this trans. please. Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

xlr8nss@bellatlantic.net

mexSSican - I don't know where I came up with the .9:1 overdrive ratio. Thanks for setting that straight. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

John

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by supersp0rt:
<strong>well weight aside (i dont think 90 lbs. is too bad) what do you mean weatherguy when you say more parasitic power losses?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">90 lb. isn't too much? It's at least 50% more than stock trans weight. It also (on average) equates to 1 tenth in the 1/4 mile and for those wanting to run quicker, that's an issue.
The parasitic loss thing was pretty much covered. More mass to move or turn, the more power required (and lost) to do the job.

 

Do you think netgearhead is as good as FLP?

 

as good as FLP? i honestly dont know...i havent dealt with FLP, so i cant really say. maybe, maybe not. call both places, find out what components they use and compare. thats probably your best bet...thats what im going to do. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

I dont know if they are as good or better than FLP, but all I gotta say is how many other companies out there have a page on thier website with links of other tranny shops so you can compare thier prices and products with that of other compaines

<small>[ August 24, 2002, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: mexSSican ]</small>

 

I spoke with Chuck at FLP and they won't tell you what they do to there trannies.

I've just never heard of netgearhead till last week. Maybe they're just cheaper than FLP, but just as good or better, so they want you to compare prices via there website so they can get popular to. Then prices will gradually go up.

EDIT: One thing that's just wacked is the 1 year warranty with netgearhead.

<small>[ August 24, 2002, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Quickin ]</small>

 

FLP wont tell you what they put in their upgraded trannies?? well i can X them off of my list...

 

Why is that?

Because they dont tell you about how much money they invested into R & D to make the tranny last to only see other companies do the same thing and charge less?

Because some of the tricks they do to the tranny they dont want people to copy?

People need to make a profit these days, and if you can do something no one else can then that is called making a premium.

I have heard of some of the things that FLP does to there tranny but will not repeat them here or anywhere cuz it was told to me in confidence....and i'll respect that.

chuck just tried and wasted money on all kinds of things until he found something that worked and it does....

Why not just trust him

 

so youre basically saying i should put my complete trust in a complete stranger. no thanks...i have more common sense than that. im not trying to be rude to you, just realistic. since i could potentially be the customer, i feel i have a right to know what is going into my product...that is not too much to ask. if you dont agree with me, thats ok, everyone has their opinion.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by supersp0rt:
<strong>so youre basically saying i should put my complete trust in a complete stranger.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">he may be a stranger to you physically but he seems to have quite the following and customers to show he builds great transmissions

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no thanks...i have more common sense than that.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">its not really commone sense, its just how you feel things should work. You want to know and you cant, so you get nervous. I may be wrong but thats what it seems like you are doing

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">im not trying to be rude to you, just realistic. since i could potentially be the customer, i feel i have a right to know what is going into my product</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure you do, to an extent. FLP has their trade secrets as do other companies in different areas. Lets say you were buying springs for your heads, would be mad that ISKY wont tell you what kind of metal they use to make some of their springs because it is propietary? Companies/Businesses do have to stay in business and you dont stay in business by letting everyone copy your design, thats why there are patents...but i dont see how chuck can patent anything so he has to keep it a secret

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if you dont agree with me, thats ok, everyone has their opinion.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yup, they are just like ********....everyone has one <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

<small>[ August 25, 2002, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: JimmyKash ]</small>

 

I respect Chuck's decision to keep it a secret, but if you don't know him or live near FLP (i.e. easy access to warranty service), I think the issue of what is being done for the ~ $2k of your money is a key one. If FLP has its own custom billet parts, they shouldn't hide that; I think it would increase interest in their product. If they use proprietary settings in the shift kit, just say it. We like knowing what makes one product better than another.

Compare this to other major purchases. When you buy an ARE or MTI built bottom end or ported heads, you know exactly what you're getting; even though their porting and sleveing techniques may be proprietary.

 

FLP does the same things that most tranny places do, and more.

Some of the issues for us are the fact that our trannies are hard to make work in a HP environment. You want some things clamping and others disengaging at the same time...

I have an FLP tranny and it's working pretty darn good. I have been to FLP since they are 30 miles from me, many times.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mexSSican:
<strong>LiquidSnake, dont give up hope man...my tranny cost me under $3700...and thats with the core charge, with shipping (to Florida), and with a custom "bulletproof" 3200 stall. Im telling you www.netgearhead.com has some kickass prices <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I have to save a few hundred more $$$$ <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />