what converter with my cam?
what converter with my cam? im in the proccess off a rebuild and am adding a vengance racing 226 228 cam with around .580 lift on a 114 and am wondering what cam you guys can reccomend. im putting long tubes on it. I have 2.73s gears 
and the stock torque converter, and was wondering what you guys reccomend to correspond with these mods? Go with gears or get a mild stall. I love my low RPM's at highway speed from the 2.73 gears. Maybe a 2800 stall? dont want to kill my mileage, so keep fuel economy as a medium concern. Thanks in advance guys.
and the stock torque converter, and was wondering what you guys reccomend to correspond with these mods? Go with gears or get a mild stall. I love my low RPM's at highway speed from the 2.73 gears. Maybe a 2800 stall? dont want to kill my mileage, so keep fuel economy as a medium concern. Thanks in advance guys. thinkin about that 3200 lockup style, is a 2800 worth my time? I dont drive it hard, i actually drive like an old lady until someone in a mustang pulls up 
i dont want it to be rough off the line, but also dont want to go to all the trouble to get this cam in and then it be choked by a wussy converter. Im building this engine with low speed torque in mind, and it will probably never go over 6k rpms. I am the stump pulling engine type, but obvious with that cam ill have a decent upstairs as well. I just was sometimes dissapointed when i punched it rollin at 60 to pass.
i dont want it to be rough off the line, but also dont want to go to all the trouble to get this cam in and then it be choked by a wussy converter. Im building this engine with low speed torque in mind, and it will probably never go over 6k rpms. I am the stump pulling engine type, but obvious with that cam ill have a decent upstairs as well. I just was sometimes dissapointed when i punched it rollin at 60 to pass. 
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When you order a converter from vig, they build it to your specs. So you can ask then to tighten the str a bit and you'll be good. I'm up to a 3800 stall on my DD and it is very tame and tight on the street, but when you floor it, flashes 4200 and all hell brakes loose. The nice thing about your 2.73 is your street launches will be hooking better and you still keep nice mileage at cruising speed.
thanks predator, good advise for sure. did you order directly from vig? ive seen some good deals on TCI converters and yanks as well, but all through vendors so not sure they can do that kind of customization. trans am freak, why 3.73s if i cant hook with a stock converter and engine now? I agree with predator about the stall allowing it to get going but the 2.73s helping prevent blowing off the tires immediately. I may upgrade to 3.23s later on if it seems necessary, but cruising in 4th at 70 and not even doing 2000 rpms is pretty sweet on the gas mileage, so I can drive it more!
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I'm not too crazy about TCI. You pay for what you get and VIG or Yank are much better quality. I had a SSF 3500 let go on me after 6 months (3.5 years ago) and took away my tranny along with it. Clutch failure 
Then I remembered how sweet were the Precision Industries TCs so I went with a vig 3200 2.5 str.
2.5 years and countless bottles = 2 motors later the TC was still running strong. Still Have it in a box.
You can order from any sponsor that carries VIG, then you fill the mod sheet for a built to specs.
VIG also comes with 1 free restall within 2 years and also a 2 year waranty. No other company in that price range offers that.
Yank, you have to order direct.
Then I remembered how sweet were the Precision Industries TCs so I went with a vig 3200 2.5 str.
2.5 years and countless bottles = 2 motors later the TC was still running strong. Still Have it in a box.
You can order from any sponsor that carries VIG, then you fill the mod sheet for a built to specs.
VIG also comes with 1 free restall within 2 years and also a 2 year waranty. No other company in that price range offers that.
Yank, you have to order direct.
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Verdad Gallardo wow sounds like a good deal, thanks for bein such a help pred, howd yuo like that 3200 as far as manners go? I dont want it revvin to high everytime i roll out from a red light, i guess id say thats my concern, dont have alot of exp with torque converters. if its tight at low throttle i guess that wouldnt be a concern, just like the sound of a 3200 over a 3600 i need to get a dyno of the torque and hp curves on that cam somehow as well so i can make sure this is going to put me where I need to be when i punch it. 226/228 vengance racing cam on 114 lobe with about .580 lift,
i need to get a dyno of the torque and hp curves on that cam somehow as well so i can make sure this is going to put me where I need to be when i punch it. 226/228 vengance racing cam on 114 lobe with about .580 lift, wow those vigs are expensive, 300 more than the TCI. on a buget rebuild with the biggre cam and what not trying to compliment it the best I can to get the most out of my package. Is there a good vendor someone can PM me? I was looking and found it for 800, seems a bit high.
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It is worth every penny, shop around let your fingers do the walking, i got mine recently for less than that.
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Originally Posted by MemphisZ28
wow those vigs are expensive, 300 more than the TCI. on a buget rebuild with the biggre cam and what not trying to compliment it the best I can to get the most out of my package. Is there a good vendor someone can PM me? I was looking and found it for 800, seems a bit high.
If you are gonna drag race it I would get a 4000 - 4400. Sounds crazy I know but once the converter locks the stall is gone. I went from a 3500 to a 4200 and dropped a tenth off my 60' and 2 tenths in the 1/8. Friend of mine has like the 3rd quickest SI car and he runs a 4400 or 4600. Well he is gonna be changing to a 5000 and thats stock cam. He says the 44-4600 drives great and dd is no problem at all.
My car had a TH350 so no overdrive or lockup and my 4200 was very tame.
LS1 torque peaks around 4500 so they really benefit from loose converters. Now a 3500 in an LT1 works awesome.
My car had a TH350 so no overdrive or lockup and my 4200 was very tame.
LS1 torque peaks around 4500 so they really benefit from loose converters. Now a 3500 in an LT1 works awesome.
good point, i think the torque peak is 4400 on a stock cam? Im going to speak with vengeance racing today and see what cam they reccomend and go from there, thanks for the info tho, wanted to know the effects of stalls on drivability, and all of this input is definitely helping.
10range, thanks, my buddy told me about that place yesterday, will contact them thanks for the info
10range, thanks, my buddy told me about that place yesterday, will contact them thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by MemphisZ28
good point, i think the torque peak is 4400 on a stock cam? Im going to speak with vengeance racing today and see what cam they reccomend and go from there, thanks for the info tho, wanted to know the effects of stalls on drivability, and all of this input is definitely helping.
10range, thanks, my buddy told me about that place yesterday, will contact them thanks for the info
10range, thanks, my buddy told me about that place yesterday, will contact them thanks for the info
If your car is a DD I would not get too crazy with a stall. A big stall and a 2.73 is going to suck on the street. A mid sized stall and a 3.42 gear would be nice for a DD. IMO
yeah, its a tough call, gonna see what these guys think, cuz i can already blow my tires off, 3.42s and a stall might just make alot of smoke. jw, why do 2.73s suck with a larger stall? I was a stick shift guy so not the most educated on torque converters.
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A big stall is going to be really loose reving up because of the slippage. The 2.73's to me would make it feel worse because it has no lowend grunt. Sure it nice on the highway for gas but it will suck driving around in the city. My Vig 3600 to me even though it is a little bit bigger stall feels way more loose than my old Vig 3200. I loved my old 3200 and I may go back. If you plan on spraying the car you may want to stay with a mid sized stall also.
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Originally Posted by 1ORANGEWS6
If your car is a DD I would not get too crazy with a stall. A big stall and a 2.73 is going to suck on the street. A mid sized stall and a 3.42 gear would be nice for a DD. IMO