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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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i have tci converter and tci flexplate. i have trans bolted up.
tci flexplate come sout a little farther then stock so it seems.
with converter up in there and trans bolted up theres a space of about a flat head screw driverbetween flexplate and torque converter. is this correct?
or is the toqrue converter not on correctly. also the torque converter spins.but not easily.
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the converter measured 1 inch depp in the bellhousing

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Hmmmm.... by that description it sounds correct.

Meaning that if the converter is seated it should be about an inch or so back from the engine mounting flange of the bellhousing.

Chris... did you check to make sure that the flexplate is installed correctly... engine side towrds engine?

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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flexplate i believe could only go on one way. i tried flipping it around and it wouldnt work so i think theres only one way to mount a tci flexplate
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Just put in the TH400 yesterday with the TCI flexplate bolted up to the motor...I have the same gap between the TC and the flexplate as well.

haven't put too much thought to it "yet" as I have to go buy some 7/16th TC bolts.



The pic is a lil dark but shows the gap between the two.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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did you guys grind the black off around the bolt holes on the flexplate?
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Yes if any paint is on the flex plate or the converter it should be removed from the mounting pads. tight bolts can be loose after a while if you dont

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did you guys grind the black off around the bolt holes on the flexplate?
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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Sand the paint off, sure did right under the crank to flexplate bolts....but the issue at hand is in the first post.....converter to flexplate space.

Topic starter, I cannot respond to your PM as your inbox is full, please clear it so I can reply.

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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So, youre saying by grinding off the paint on every mounting surface (tq converter to flex plate, flex plate to crankshaft mounting surface, etc.) will resolve this gap issue? Eh, maybe a litte, but I dont think enough to get flexplate and tq converter to actually seat against each other. Looks like we have to put some shims between the two.

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Wouldn't help at all in in fact it would make it worse, if you are taking "material" away from the flexplate...but we digress.

What to do about the gap between the converter and flexplate...you'd think these transmission shops and sponsors would be able to answer this immediately....

Any members know how to remedy this situation?
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The spacing sounds corect but it should spin easily

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i have tci converter and tci flexplate. i have trans bolted up.
tci flexplate come sout a little farther then stock so it seems.
with converter up in there and trans bolted up theres a space of about a flat head screw driverbetween flexplate and torque converter. is this correct?
or is the toqrue converter not on correctly. also the torque converter spins.but not easily.
also
the converter measured 1 inch depp in the bellhousing
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Spins freely here as well, no binding or dragging at all.
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Found some tech info off another site about the converter gap

Check the gap between the converter bolt pads and the flexplate. If there is too much space between the two, the converter will be pulled slightly from the tranny and cause pump damage. If more than 3/16ths of an inch, shim up the gap with hardened flat washers and buy slightly longer GRADE 8 bolts.

Another consideration. Remove the paint from the nose of the converter and apply grease to this location. In addition, remove any rust or dirt from the crankshaft hole where the nose of the converter fits into and apply grease there, too. Not doing this can cause the converter to not line up properly and bind when tightening the converter to the flexplate. The flexplate is just that... A flexible plate. It isn't rigid enough to force the converter to line up properly should it bind at the crankshaft floating point. You'll know if this happens immediately upon starting the engine. A severe vibration will be intuitively obvious!

So if its 3/16ths or greater, shim it with washers to get it below that spec?

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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See shim it! But, maybe we ought to grease up the snout also?
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Got to measure the gap first then shim it at or below 3/16ths.

Yeah we could grease it, want to pull it down again?
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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fuggitt, why not........
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We'll measure it first. I cleaned out the snout on the crank as well as the crank threads with brake cleaner and cleaned off the TCI adapter ring with brake clean as well....so all should be great. Doubt the grease will help.

I could understand if the converter was dragging when we spin it, but it spins freely...remember when we were lining up the TC to flexplate bolt holes, it spun real smooth, so i'm sure we are good without having to grease it.

Time to get my mandatory 3hrs of sleep before waking up for work
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I used this when i installed my mine, good info with illustrations http://www.rosslertrans.com/Converter-spacing.htm
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so if it doesnt spin frrely like rolle around on its own then i obviously dont have it in right correct? but as i was stateing earlier. i have the same depths as you on spacing between everything. i cant afford for anythign to break at this point so what do i do?
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Did it spin freely before you bolted the tranny up?

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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yup it did
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