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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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ROCK-ON LEVEL 4

Our level four transmission has evolved over several years. It sets the standard for the highest quality, durability, craftsmanship, drivability and performance of any 4L60E on the market today. It is second to none. This transmission is set up for street / stripe applications, it’ll take N/A or superchargers, fit right in with the nitrous crowd or a direct stock replacement. Smooth street shifting or aggressive, neck snapping, nail- biting, sit you back in your seat shifting should you decide to get on it. Take it to the track or just drive it around town you’ll thoroughly enjoy this unit. Stop by and see what our clients have to say about it. Compare for yourself you’ll see the difference quality has to offer. .


Parallel deck pump body and cover which eliminates hydraulic cross leaks
Adjust pump rotor and slide clearance to .0015-.002 thousandths in a hand polished pocket.
High rev pump slide spring
Reinforced / staked pump bushing
Port “ported slots” for increased hydraulic flow
Heavy duty, hi rev. vane rings added for maximum pump output
No stick, steel, oversize billet boost valve.
Heavier boost valve spring/ shim added for maximum working line pressure
Hardened, ported stator shaft with oversize bushings added. Stabilizes input shaft.
Raybestos Hi-energy 2-4 band or Red Eagle Alto Band
7 Borg / Warner .065 hi energy frictions 3-4 clutch (4L65E)
29 element forward sprag borg warner
4L65E low roller clutch B/W
H.D. Beast sun shell
Rock drive hardened, balanced, sleeved input shaft & drum, with oversize coast clutch piston
Borg Warner clutches thought
New bushings, using wider where necessary for stability and balance, decreasing cross leaks/increasing durability
New solenoids, altered stock gm
Tested, soldered wiring harness
Transgo HD-2 performance shift kit with 3 washers
Transgo vacuum mod kit
Corvette servo
All accumulator pistons replaced and upgraded with aluminum pistons
Correct end play for performance
Enhanced PWM system to eliminate lock-up drag
Increase Lube capacity
Hardened galvanized control plate to handle the increased pressure requirements of a performance build.

with Yank 4000 converter


any feedback on this build???
Old Sep 15, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Do your homework on this company... start by searching that name here at Tech. Many people were left in a bind when they went under a while back. Without all of the drama... Dave had some personal issues that caused the company to crater. It happens.

He builds a pretty good unit. Lost touch with him very early last year after his shop closed... professional type relationship, we compared notes on 60's a couple of years ago. I pulled up his website and dialed the # on the contact page.... busy signal many times. Lemme know if you talk to him, I'd like to say hey to him again.

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The overall build looks good. I like ours better but still its a decent combo.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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well its a used unit from some one locally
no street driving and 12 passes @ Atco - car went mid 10's
$1500 including the Yank 4000


after some more research & reading i think i'll pass as to not possibly shoot myself in the foot

thanks for the opinions everyone

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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do ur research on rockon, i know alot of people got screwed over hard core by them....
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Are you serious? I have a rock-on tranny and it just went out after almost a year. I tried to call Dave and noone answered. Are they seriously out of business?!
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Rossler is not a sponsor here but builds a very badass 4l60 unit. They are a stable company that has been around just about forever.
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Before RockOn ran into $ problems they were numero uno.Those trannys could take loads of abuse.

I have seen 9 sec.F Bodies with there Trans(4L60)with no problems.

I have one and its the best trans I have ever installed
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RayZ06
Before RockOn ran into $ problems they were numero uno.Those trannys could take loads of abuse.

I have seen 9 sec.F Bodies with there Trans(4L60)with no problems.

I have one and its the best trans I have ever installed
I agree.

In their prime Rock On was hard to beat.

We have been into a few of their units that had problems and they are solid.

From what I understand the quality fell off significantly in like say the last 6 months of operations. Prior to that, they were serious about what went into their units. You won't hear anything negative from me about them. I talked to Dave on more than one occasion after he had his troubles and I know he did the best could could with what life handed him. That doesn't mean some guys weren't left holding the bag, it just means I sat and talked to him about what happened in the end, and I learned from his mistakes. It wasn't pretty from what I heard from him and some of his customers. Bad ole deal there for everyone involved.

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I got screwed by them.

I had mine for ~500 miles and 2/3 bottles of spray and it went out. I ended up losing 3rd and 4th.

Still had warranty as it was only 4 or so months later. Tried to get a hold of Dave at Rock on and they went out of business a week after they overnighted my tranny and did not even want their box back with my core. Seems to me they put crap parts in and did not want their box/core to save on shipping charges. I paid ~2G's from wy stage 4 and it was junk.

So, I havean FLT stage V now and its held up to 10 or so pass's and 8/10 bottles of the juice. So, be carefull with the Rock on crap.
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Lot's of stories just like that one out there. Very unfortunate, sorry to hear about it Waterbug.

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Will
Are you serious? I have a rock-on tranny and it just went out after almost a year. I tried to call Dave and noone answered. Are they seriously out of business?!
Sorry man, they went out of business a long time ago It was about a year ago. It sounds like you bought your tranny not long before they went under, and from what I heard, their last batch of units were pure junk, little more than upgraded clutches. Being as your tranny went out in so little time, I wouldn't be surprised if you got one of their "built units" that was barely any stronger than a stocker or worse. I wouldn't buy anything even affiliated with Rock-On. They screwed a lot of people towards the end of their run
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Rock On still post on the camaro z28 forum and is still in business from my understanding or recovering anyway. From what I gathered from reading it was just a case of to much to fast and personal issues that caused there issues. Maybe post there if your looking for answers. I dont know them personally but that what I gathered from reading. EVERYWHERE!
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Well, if they are trying to make things right they ought to get back on here and straighten some **** out.

I would like to get my ~2G's back as the tranny was garbage and the warranty did not mean ****.

I sold the box and the core so no proof of even owning the trans now.
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Sorry for your missforune I was just letting people know what I have seen on the various forums.
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Well, if they are trying to make things right they ought to get back on here and straighten some **** out.

I would like to get my ~2G's back as the tranny was garbage and the warranty did not mean ****.

I sold the box and the core so no proof of even owning the trans now.
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They know who got the raw end of the deals at the end of there "going out of business sale"... Maybe the moderators on here wont let them back on cause they screwed over alot of people on here.
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True but maybe you should try a post over on the camaroZ28.com forum or a PM hey maybe he will try and do something you never know till you try. Just and idea.
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They know who got the raw end of the deals at the end of there "going out of business sale"... Maybe the moderators on here wont let them back on cause they screwed over alot of people on here.
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Im sure if he/they started handing out refunds for the POS trans they shipped out at the end of their run, it would have made it over here at least.
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Was just making a suggestion as I said I know very littl about them I think I have PMed with the guy who owned it or someone who worked there a few times. I do not know there present general status. I just know I do see them post over there periodically
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