Which stall, 150 shot?
Which stall, 150 shot? With bolt ons, milled 241 heads, DR's and a 150 wet shot I was thinking of going with the yank 3600SS but recently I have tossed around the idea of a 4000SS. Would the spary just blow through the 4000 or should it be alright? Also it will be getting s mild cam in a few months, ASA, 224, 228 etc.
i think that you need a special stall for nitrous because it will be a lot more torque and stall a lot higher. If i were you i would just call Yank, and Vig and have them build you one.
i have heads/cam/150 wet shot/SS4000, and with 26's and 3.42's it worked out pretty well. I was very close to the rev limiter at the top of the 1/4. I would recommend a SS3800 if Yank can set you up for one. You cant go wrong with the SS3600 either. I'm going 28's to give me a little bit more room and had to de-gear my 9" so I dont go hitting the limiter in 3rd.
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So why when you talk to some companies they say you need a multiple disk converter and a lower str to make a stall that high work with nitrous? I am trying to buy a converter for a heads/cam nitrous car and I would like to be decent on motor and not blow through the converter on the bottle. Is this possible? Can you run a converter like the ss4000 which has a str of 2.6? Why wouldn't they recommend one of their nitrous converters? My car makes 560rwhp on the bottle, do you think it will blow through it?
Great on the juice but terrible for a cammed NA run....We only use those converters on Supercharged/Turbo cars up here. They are very tight "NA"...
You have the age old dilema of the dual purpose converter. Tight for big power and modest extension or loose for NA (helps pull upper rpm with big extension).
The deal with the SS4000 is that when you hit somewhere in the 550+ rwhp (shift points 7000 rpm and less), the extension gets to high and you blow thru the verter. So, you have to take peoples combos into account when they tell you X combo works on my car. Rpm shift point is huge....A guy shifting his stock Ls1 at 6000 rpm will blow through that verter pretty fast even with a small shot of juice. Compared to a guy shooting a 200 shot on a cammed combo shifting at 6800. "Black X" has really good luck with this combo, and is probably making 525 at the wheels in his S10 truck.
A really good compremise converter is a VIG 3200 triple disk....Great flash "NA" but tighter like a SS3600 up top. Then you can lock it for 3rd gear if needed. You will loose about a 1 tenth "NA" due to lack of extension but atleast it will flash good....
The SS3600 is tight all around and you'll give up at least 2 tenths "NA" to a SS4000 due to slower 60y's and minimum extension. But, you can shoot big shoot of juice through it...
Just don't lock it at WOT!!!!
Looks like I might be going the SS4000 route to get the best NA times while being able to shoot a 150 shot through the engine. My stroker makes 460 (LT1) at the rear so, if I add another 120 rwhp (150 shot) I'll be pushing that number pretty close...Luckily I can shift at 7 k rpm no problem but I expect some blow through.
You have the age old dilema of the dual purpose converter. Tight for big power and modest extension or loose for NA (helps pull upper rpm with big extension).
The deal with the SS4000 is that when you hit somewhere in the 550+ rwhp (shift points 7000 rpm and less), the extension gets to high and you blow thru the verter. So, you have to take peoples combos into account when they tell you X combo works on my car. Rpm shift point is huge....A guy shifting his stock Ls1 at 6000 rpm will blow through that verter pretty fast even with a small shot of juice. Compared to a guy shooting a 200 shot on a cammed combo shifting at 6800. "Black X" has really good luck with this combo, and is probably making 525 at the wheels in his S10 truck.
A really good compremise converter is a VIG 3200 triple disk....Great flash "NA" but tighter like a SS3600 up top. Then you can lock it for 3rd gear if needed. You will loose about a 1 tenth "NA" due to lack of extension but atleast it will flash good....
The SS3600 is tight all around and you'll give up at least 2 tenths "NA" to a SS4000 due to slower 60y's and minimum extension. But, you can shoot big shoot of juice through it...
Just don't lock it at WOT!!!!Looks like I might be going the SS4000 route to get the best NA times while being able to shoot a 150 shot through the engine. My stroker makes 460 (LT1) at the rear so, if I add another 120 rwhp (150 shot) I'll be pushing that number pretty close...Luckily I can shift at 7 k rpm no problem but I expect some blow through.
Last edited by jimbob; Mar 10, 2008 at 12:05 AM.
So basically if I didnt care what my NA times were and was trying to get the best on spray the PYE would be best? I would rather give up a few tenths on a NA pass than on a N2O pass.
Get a three disc Vig, like I did. I blew through a PT4000, tried a 3600SS (way too tight off the spray), and even had that converter loosened to 3800SS specs. Burned the clutch out of that one, even though it was never locked. Now with the three disc Vig3800, my car is good off and awesome on the bottle. Locked in 3rd, it just takes off like a second stage of spray.
