Ford Mustang GT to adopt 400hp+ 5.0L in 2011
01-27-2009, 02:35 PM
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In all fairness, I think anybody with a slow car that relies on a stalled automatic is kinda "slow" themselves. So somebody that drives a bolt-on/cammed/stalled car that only ran a 12.4 doesn't really have an opinion that matters to me.
01-27-2009, 02:39 PM
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Any fool can see, with tires my car is in the 11's. For every .1 dropped from your 60"= a .15 reduction in ET. Do the math jackass!
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01-27-2009, 04:08 PM
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IT DOES MATTER how power is made. If you are using a supercharger you will have heat sink issues. There is a reason road racing cars have NA or Turbo'ed engines.
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01-27-2009, 07:00 PM
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:The hotter a "TURBO" gets power production is down also. My '88 T-bird turbocoupe as well as my friends Grand National performed weaker after heatup. Icing the intake and watering the radiator fins" helped some between races.
01-27-2009, 07:16 PM
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But we're talking regular street cars. Somebody bitching about the '03-'04 Cobras using superchargers is usually just bitter that they are faster.
01-27-2009, 07:29 PM
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Maybe Later on,but the 2011 shelby is going to get the aluminum block.
Maybe.....but is still probably going OWN/be on par with the new camaro SS
BTW I love ford engines that have power adders(4.6L and 5.4L) because easy mods get them lots of power and because their already built to have high hp and are good for boost unlike some other engines..ls7.
Does that mean the LS7 sucks?no because is more lightweight and it still does way better than those engine N/A because it's a N/A engine but is not as good as the other ford engines in using power adders because is not built for them.
Every engine has a good/bad,it all depends on what you want
Ops, I take that back...welcome to 2002! Once again ford is way behind...
BTW I love ford engines that have power adders(4.6L and 5.4L) because easy mods get them lots of power and because their already built to have high hp and are good for boost unlike some other engines..ls7.
Does that mean the LS7 sucks?no because is more lightweight and it still does way better than those engine N/A because it's a N/A engine but is not as good as the other ford engines in using power adders because is not built for them.
Every engine has a good/bad,it all depends on what you want
01-27-2009, 07:49 PM
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+ 1 Funny how no matter what Ford does someone always has a negative comment. The fox body was too light etc etc you get the picture.
01-27-2009, 08:06 PM
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Fox Body weighed just right 
And, yes turbos for road racing do need intercoolers. Intercoolers just happen to be more effective on TC than SC.
I am just saying if one wants to make power for twisties and straight aways...it does matter. If it is just for a straight line, have at it. Should have clarified.
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And, yes turbos for road racing do need intercoolers. Intercoolers just happen to be more effective on TC than SC.
I am just saying if one wants to make power for twisties and straight aways...it does matter. If it is just for a straight line, have at it. Should have clarified.
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01-27-2009, 09:37 PM
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Once again ford is way behind...
01-27-2009, 11:29 PM
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Yes and it was built by Mercury Marine. I have a cousin that worked where they were built and he laughed about the 405 HP rating. He said the made a lot more than that on the engine dyno's they had. I do know that they typically dyno very well on a chassis dyno so that didn't surprise me but he got a good deal on a couple of extra's they had when production ended. He sold them all ready but it was for quite a bir more than what he paid for them.
01-28-2009, 09:06 AM
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The ZR1. It was a DOHC 32v V8. Motor had oiling issues on the cam bearings IIRC so they ended production.
Call it what you what but HP is HP whether its N/A or FI. Call foul that Ford used a blower. One could argue that GM needs all those cubes to make the same power. Its a wash.
You still have a slow stalled/cammed car.
j/k.
Call it what you what but HP is HP whether its N/A or FI. Call foul that Ford used a blower. One could argue that GM needs all those cubes to make the same power. Its a wash.
You still have a slow stalled/cammed car.
j/k. 
01-28-2009, 11:05 AM
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From what I can gather it looks like they will be pretty close performance wise. I think the Ford might actually have a little bit of an edge though, depends on the weight of both. I don't think either one is gonna "smoke" the other, it's gonna be tight.
01-28-2009, 12:30 PM
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"From what I can gather it looks like they will be pretty close performance wise. I think the Ford might actually have a little bit of an edge though, depends on the weight of both. I don't think either one is gonna "smoke" the other, it's gonna be tight."
5.0 Stang light
3500 lbs with 400 HP = 8.75 lbs per HP
5.0 Stang Heavy, if it gains this much
3600-3700 lbs = 9-9.25 lbs per HP
LS3 M6 camaro
3900-4000 lbs with 420 HP = 9.28-9.5 lbs per HP
L98 A6 camaro
4000 lbs with 400 HP = 10 lbs per HP
Same torque means the lighter car gets the advantage here.
Looks like stock for stock Maros will be losing, unless...
1. the Stang driver is a fucktard
2. Ford turns it into a portly pig (as the camaro is) as the 3700 lb option shows
3. Ford gives it horrid gearing.
We will have to place our cars on diets and mod them.
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5.0 Stang light
3500 lbs with 400 HP = 8.75 lbs per HP
5.0 Stang Heavy, if it gains this much
3600-3700 lbs = 9-9.25 lbs per HP
LS3 M6 camaro
3900-4000 lbs with 420 HP = 9.28-9.5 lbs per HP
L98 A6 camaro
4000 lbs with 400 HP = 10 lbs per HP
Same torque means the lighter car gets the advantage here.
Looks like stock for stock Maros will be losing, unless...
1. the Stang driver is a fucktard
2. Ford turns it into a portly pig (as the camaro is) as the 3700 lb option shows
3. Ford gives it horrid gearing.
We will have to place our cars on diets and mod them.
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