GM won't seek more Goverment money
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Just like your comments, always a anti GM qualifier added. Your continuing pessimistic comments and posts with respect to everything GM amaze me, especially considering your a Mod on GM oriented site! If you posted anything that was positive about GM and Chevrolet, more than 10% of the time, I would cash out my retirement and buy a Mercedes.
I think I'll go hop on the Supra site. Comments are the same! and it's interesting to hear the support they give to a company that disolved their favorite product a decade ago.
I think I'll go hop on the Supra site. Comments are the same! and it's interesting to hear the support they give to a company that disolved their favorite product a decade ago.
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Its a "glass half empty/half full" scenario. On one hand, they are doing good enough to not need a handout this month. On the other hand, they needed a lot of money already, and they still haven't established a business model that will allow them to operate without future handouts. Its not a great scenario, but I'll view that with quiet optimism.
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Just like your comments, always a anti GM qualifier added. Your continuing pessimistic comments and posts with respect to everything GM amaze me, especially considering your a Mod on GM oriented site! If you posted anything that was positive about GM and Chevrolet, more than 10% of the time, I would cash out my retirement and buy a Mercedes.
I think I'll go hop on the Supra site. Comments are the same! and it's interesting to hear the support they give to a company that disolved their favorite product a decade ago.
I think I'll go hop on the Supra site. Comments are the same! and it's interesting to hear the support they give to a company that disolved their favorite product a decade ago.
All GM is doing with this news is playing a PR game as best they can considering how unpopular continued bailouts are becoming. They will get the money later.
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Just like your comments, always a anti GM qualifier added. Your continuing pessimistic comments and posts with respect to everything GM amaze me, especially considering your a Mod on GM oriented site! If you posted anything that was positive about GM and Chevrolet, more than 10% of the time, I would cash out my retirement and buy a Mercedes.
I think I'll go hop on the Supra site. Comments are the same! and it's interesting to hear the support they give to a company that disolved their favorite product a decade ago.
I think I'll go hop on the Supra site. Comments are the same! and it's interesting to hear the support they give to a company that disolved their favorite product a decade ago.
real world issues here. It's not a place to blow sunshine up each others asses. We are all pulling for GM. Don't think for a second that we aren't.
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I don't think the country would be right without a C7 (and C8 and C9 and C10), and I would love to be able to have honest and deserved pride in American car companies. So I hope the Big 3 come out of this with a HUGE lesson learned, and turn onto the right track.
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^^^ I hope for this as well, but the question remains, have they taken things too far where they can't pull out of it. Sometimes you dig a hole too deep and you can't fill it back in. And at what expense to the tax payers? Personally I voted against all the bailouts, unfortunately my representative didn't listen to my voice or anyone else's.
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There's no way GM got 2 Billion dollars worth of good PR out of saying no to this month's loan. They should have taken the cash and pulled every stalled and suspended program ahead. It would have served them infinitely more.
Imagine what 2 Billion dollars could do to Cadillac. Or a new Impala to compete with the new Taurus.
Imagine what 2 Billion dollars could do to Cadillac. Or a new Impala to compete with the new Taurus.
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There's no way GM got 2 Billion dollars worth of good PR out of saying no to this month's loan. They should have taken the cash and pulled every stalled and suspended program ahead. It would have served them infinitely more.
Imagine what 2 Billion dollars could do to Cadillac. Or a new Impala to compete with the new Taurus.
Imagine what 2 Billion dollars could do to Cadillac. Or a new Impala to compete with the new Taurus.
As for your Impala, it's coming in 2011 along with the Cruze. Should be unveiled later this year or at next years Detroit Auto Show.
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No one should ever take a loan they don't need. If after crunching the numbers and laying off as many people as they have they saw they didn't need the second installment of their 3 part loan, then I applaud them for denying it. They want gov't help about as much as we want them to have it folks, but the reality is they need it, and them going under WILL cost more for us tax payers long term.
As for your Impala, it's coming in 2011 along with the Cruze. Should be unveiled later this year or at next years Detroit Auto Show.
As for your Impala, it's coming in 2011 along with the Cruze. Should be unveiled later this year or at next years Detroit Auto Show.
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^^^ I hope for this as well, but the question remains, have they taken things too far where they can't pull out of it. Sometimes you dig a hole too deep and you can't fill it back in. And at what expense to the tax payers? Personally I voted against all the bailouts, unfortunately my representative didn't listen to my voice or anyone else's.
If we were here at March 18, 2009 with not giving them a bailout where would they be at? reforming and probably be a ways into it as well. But they are still stuck at the same position they were at when they filed. Its sad to see...
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Yes they will still need money. The first loan they got came in three installments, this was merely the second installment of the first loan, they have another 2B coming, unless they see that they don't need that one as well. Regardless Bush's admin only gave them enough money to pawn them off on Obama, so yes they will need more, Ford and Chrysler will too. Fortunately if they can make it to 2010 when the new UAW contract takes effect they will be able to start competing with Toyota in profits since the UAW is finally stepping up and taking responsibility for some of the benefits they offer the Big 3's employees.