GM Steering Column Issues
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GM Steering Column Issues We've been having many steering shaft issues in GM cars. Requiring they be fixed before we can certify them for sale. I was wondering if folks here have experienced steering and steering shaft problems on their GM vehicles?
GM the company in trouble, that one. GM said it was advancing Delphi, another company in trouble, another 150 million. Everyone knows Delphi is GM's largest supplier. Delphi makes steering parts for GM.
I know many don't understand my posts.
When one broke company assists another broke company to stay in business, something is wrong. David Cole - chairman of the Center for Automotive Research says GM and Delphi are bound together. OK
1999 was when GM split Delphi from GM. I felt that was a great time to put my business up for sale. Our biggest customer was GM. The reason Delphi has had problems was Delphi paid their employees the same amount of money for labor costs as what GM paid their employees. OK
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GM the company in trouble, that one. GM said it was advancing Delphi, another company in trouble, another 150 million. Everyone knows Delphi is GM's largest supplier. Delphi makes steering parts for GM.
I know many don't understand my posts.
When one broke company assists another broke company to stay in business, something is wrong. David Cole - chairman of the Center for Automotive Research says GM and Delphi are bound together. OK
1999 was when GM split Delphi from GM. I felt that was a great time to put my business up for sale. Our biggest customer was GM. The reason Delphi has had problems was Delphi paid their employees the same amount of money for labor costs as what GM paid their employees. OK
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We've been having many steering shaft issues in GM cars. " I SELL USED CARS. I KNOW WHAT WE SPEND ON USED CARS." WE'RE HAVING STEERING SHAFT ISSUES." Requiring they be fixed before we can certify them for sale. I was wondering if folks here have experienced steering and steering shaft problems on their GM vehicles? "DOES ANYONE HERE DRIVE GM CARS"
GM the company in trouble, that one. GM said it was advancing Delphi, another company in trouble, another 150 million. "WHY WOULD GM SPEND MONEY ON A COMPANY THAT CAN'T MAKE GOOD STEERING SHAFTS" Everyone knows Delphi is GM's largest supplier. " SINCE 1999 DELPHI HAS BEEN GM'S LARGEST SUPPLIER" Delphi makes steering parts for GM.
I know many don't understand my posts. "
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When one broke company assists another broke company to stay in business, something is wrong. "NO ONE SEES ANY ISSUE WITH THIS? HELL IT'S YOUR MOENY TOO" David Cole - chairman of the Center for Automotive Research says GM and Delphi are bound together. OK "JAKE MY DOG AND I ARE BOUND TOGETHER"
1999 was when GM split Delphi from GM. I felt that was a great time to put my business up for sale. Our biggest customer was GM. " I CAME BACK TO THE AUTO INDUSTRY AFTER SELLING THE BUSINESS I OWNED. THE AUTO INDUSTRY HAS BEEN SCREWED UP SINCE 1999." The reason Delphi has had problems was Delphi paid their employees the same amount of money for labor costs as what GM paid their employees. OK "ONCE GM OWNED ALL OF IT'S COMPONENT PARTS PLANTS" THOSE PLANTS BECAME A COMPANY CALLED DELPHI" "DELPHI FAILED BECAUSE THE OLD COMPANY PAID THEIR EMPLOYEES THE SAME AMOUNT PER HOUR AS THE NEW COMPANY. THIS BEGAN IN 1999."
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GM the company in trouble, that one. GM said it was advancing Delphi, another company in trouble, another 150 million. "WHY WOULD GM SPEND MONEY ON A COMPANY THAT CAN'T MAKE GOOD STEERING SHAFTS" Everyone knows Delphi is GM's largest supplier. " SINCE 1999 DELPHI HAS BEEN GM'S LARGEST SUPPLIER" Delphi makes steering parts for GM.
I know many don't understand my posts. "
"When one broke company assists another broke company to stay in business, something is wrong. "NO ONE SEES ANY ISSUE WITH THIS? HELL IT'S YOUR MOENY TOO" David Cole - chairman of the Center for Automotive Research says GM and Delphi are bound together. OK "JAKE MY DOG AND I ARE BOUND TOGETHER"
1999 was when GM split Delphi from GM. I felt that was a great time to put my business up for sale. Our biggest customer was GM. " I CAME BACK TO THE AUTO INDUSTRY AFTER SELLING THE BUSINESS I OWNED. THE AUTO INDUSTRY HAS BEEN SCREWED UP SINCE 1999." The reason Delphi has had problems was Delphi paid their employees the same amount of money for labor costs as what GM paid their employees. OK
"ONCE GM OWNED ALL OF IT'S COMPONENT PARTS PLANTS" THOSE PLANTS BECAME A COMPANY CALLED DELPHI" "DELPHI FAILED BECAUSE THE OLD COMPANY PAID THEIR EMPLOYEES THE SAME AMOUNT PER HOUR AS THE NEW COMPANY. THIS BEGAN IN 1999." JD
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I can answer that. I am home now having an adult
.It's very hard for me to ever post anything without telling a story. You might have noticedthat?
The article I posted from came from the USA Today. With no customers I do anything to stay busy during the day.
In my simple mind already knowing, because I've looked on the internet, and read peoples problems with GM steering gear. I've experienced steering column issures first hand working at a Chevrolet dealer. I tied several items together into one post.:
Delphi makes steer gear products for GM.
a. Delphi sometimes makes inferior products
b. Delphi is out of money
GM is out of money too
a. Today they want to save Delphi and invest 150 million
b. GM rid itself from Delphi in 1999 - It's 10 years later
c. Now they want to buy a company back with known problems
Don't worry the US has lots of money
Again in my simple mind this is Automtive News. It's
funny, but sad automotive news. If I were a news reporter my story would have beaten everyone elses. 
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Everyone who actually knows GM cars knows that there are countless bulletins and warrenty repairs (but no recalls) on steering shafts. There was an error in the design and the fix is a 'lube kit' and replacement of the prematurely worn shaft.
Yes, Delphi sometimes makes crappy parts....sometimes they make things so well Ferrari uses them: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/29/f...9-gtb-fiorano/
Yes, Delphi sometimes makes crappy parts....sometimes they make things so well Ferrari uses them: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/29/f...9-gtb-fiorano/
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Everyone who actually knows GM cars knows that there are countless bulletins and warrenty repairs (but no recalls) on steering shafts. There was an error in the design and the fix is a 'lube kit' and replacement of the prematurely worn shaft.
Yes, Delphi sometimes makes crappy parts....sometimes they make things so well Ferrari uses them: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/29/f...9-gtb-fiorano/
Yes, Delphi sometimes makes crappy parts....sometimes they make things so well Ferrari uses them: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/29/f...9-gtb-fiorano/
What is the importance of this company, Steering Gear, over many other Delphi companies that have been closed?
In my town alone: Harrison, Inland Fisher Guide, Delco Products, Inland, Delco Moraine. All became Delphi companies. They all also sold parts to mfg's outside the GM family. These Delphi plants have been closed.. We also had a IUE, wrong union, plant that built Trail Blazers. Their build quality was superior. They are closed also.
Thanks for your imput!!
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There is no OEM without a supply base. Delphi is GM's largest supplier.
Therefore, they have to protect them in order to protect themselves.
Is it really that hard to comprehend? GM is in survival mode here.
You need to step back and look at things from a 50,000 foot view to gain
some perspective.
You remind me of my dog when she was a puppy. We would take her to a huge
park with a lake and a football field size area to run in...but she would just keep
her head down and sniff a 3 square foot area. My point is that she didn't understand
that there were bigger things available. She didn't comprehend the big picture. Neither
do you.
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it's very simple. If delphi goes under, gm goes under. Or visa versa.
There is no oem without a supply base. Delphi is gm's largest supplier. Thanks, i pointed that out. Gm owned all the plants before they became delphi. Therefore, they have to protect them in order to protect themselves. To a point. Before every non-domestic mfg. Came here and built plants there weren't other choices. I think there are today.
Is it really that hard to comprehend? Sigh - sort of! Gm is in survival mode here. Agree - my sales in the auto industry have gone down every years since 2000.
You need to step back and look at things from a 50,000 foot view to gain
some perspective. I agree - the very reason i retired. Only work 24 hr. Per week at a chevrolet dealership. Let the younger folks step-up. Thanks for allowing me to express myself.
You remind me of my dog when she was a puppy. We would take her to a huge park with a lake and a football field size area to run in...but she would just keep her head down and sniff a 3 square foot area. My point is that she didn't understand that there were bigger things available. I understand what you are saying. Again, thanks for allowing my comments. I don't have that problem with my dogs. She didn't comprehend the big picture. Neither do you.
There is no oem without a supply base. Delphi is gm's largest supplier. Thanks, i pointed that out. Gm owned all the plants before they became delphi. Therefore, they have to protect them in order to protect themselves. To a point. Before every non-domestic mfg. Came here and built plants there weren't other choices. I think there are today.
Is it really that hard to comprehend? Sigh - sort of! Gm is in survival mode here. Agree - my sales in the auto industry have gone down every years since 2000.
You need to step back and look at things from a 50,000 foot view to gain
some perspective. I agree - the very reason i retired. Only work 24 hr. Per week at a chevrolet dealership. Let the younger folks step-up. Thanks for allowing me to express myself.
You remind me of my dog when she was a puppy. We would take her to a huge park with a lake and a football field size area to run in...but she would just keep her head down and sniff a 3 square foot area. My point is that she didn't understand that there were bigger things available. I understand what you are saying. Again, thanks for allowing my comments. I don't have that problem with my dogs. She didn't comprehend the big picture. Neither do you.
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How is GM going to build a car without major components? They can't just redesign and reorder. That takes money.
ALL of the bailouts are a bad idea IMO.
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I'm on the fence there. We can't sit back and watch our country fold under it's own weight, but on the other hand...we can't keep funneling money into companies who have a broken business model.
The global economy is tied into automotive, which is one of the reasons for the economic downturn. Allowing it to fall apart presents serious issues...and keeping it on life support presents a different set of issues.
The global economy is tied into automotive, which is one of the reasons for the economic downturn. Allowing it to fall apart presents serious issues...and keeping it on life support presents a different set of issues.
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[QUOTE=unit213;11183043]I'm on the fence there. We can't sit back and watch our country fold under it's own weight, but on the other hand...we can't keep funneling money into companies who have a broken business model.
So, everyones faith is in our government? Me too!
Agree, we can't keep funneling moeny into companies who have a broken business model. Other than too many identical vehicles GM isn't broken. But this company called Delphi. The one that builds steering products. The one with the design problem. That shows up on GM trucks, the Malibu, G-6, Impala. That design from a company with over a 100 year history of building cars. That company with brands all over the world. Are you making excuses for them? No other company in the world can make steering products for GM? You're all willing to see GM pay 150 million to save that company, right? I AM NOT.
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So, everyones faith is in our government? Me too!
Agree, we can't keep funneling moeny into companies who have a broken business model. Other than too many identical vehicles GM isn't broken. But this company called Delphi. The one that builds steering products. The one with the design problem. That shows up on GM trucks, the Malibu, G-6, Impala. That design from a company with over a 100 year history of building cars. That company with brands all over the world. Are you making excuses for them? No other company in the world can make steering products for GM? You're all willing to see GM pay 150 million to save that company, right? I AM NOT.
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Everyone who actually knows GM cars knows that there are countless bulletins and warrenty repairs (but no recalls) on steering shafts. There was an error in the design and the fix is a 'lube kit' and replacement of the prematurely worn shaft.
Yes, Delphi sometimes makes crappy parts....sometimes they make things so well Ferrari uses them: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/29/f...9-gtb-fiorano/
Yes, Delphi sometimes makes crappy parts....sometimes they make things so well Ferrari uses them: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/29/f...9-gtb-fiorano/
I, JD, also see this problem on trucks, G-6's, Malibu and Impala that need to be fixed before they can be Certified as GM Certified Used Cars. Would someone please send me their real address and bank routing #'s. I'll be happy to send you the bill for these repairs.
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I'm on the fence there. We can't sit back and watch our country fold under it's own weight, but on the other hand...we can't keep funneling money into companies who have a broken business model.
So, everyones faith is in our government? Me too!
Agree, we can't keep funneling moeny into companies who have a broken business model. Other than too many identical vehicles GM isn't broken. But this company called Delphi. The one that builds steering products. The one with the design problem. That shows up on GM trucks, the Malibu, G-6, Impala. That design from a company with over a 100 year history of building cars. That company with brands all over the world. Are you making excuses for them? No other company in the world can make steering products for GM? You're all willing to see GM pay 150 million to save that company, right? I AM NOT.
JD
So, everyones faith is in our government? Me too!
Agree, we can't keep funneling moeny into companies who have a broken business model. Other than too many identical vehicles GM isn't broken. But this company called Delphi. The one that builds steering products. The one with the design problem. That shows up on GM trucks, the Malibu, G-6, Impala. That design from a company with over a 100 year history of building cars. That company with brands all over the world. Are you making excuses for them? No other company in the world can make steering products for GM? You're all willing to see GM pay 150 million to save that company, right? I AM NOT.
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I'm trying to reason with a 5 year old child. Besides, the comments that you
quoted of mine weren't even directed at you.
While I despise anything Jakes Dad spews on this board I do have steering issues with my Silverado SS. I believe I have had the shaft replaced 3 times and greased probably 20 plus times but it always seems to loosen up. GMs answer was "thats the way it is".