Sarge_13

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The SHO didn't run the same trans as a regular Taurus I'm pretty sure.

PopaPork

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Well with that logic, my next GM will have the same shitty roof and hood bubbles and GM won't do a damn thing about them.

Sooo if that's the case, Toyota who would be giving a new car for this rust problem works out to be a better deal in the long run?

Joshiedoom

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Tundra frames were made locally and I made the airbag.

I know a lot of people that personally worked on the frame line... no wonder they all got laid off.

Spoolin

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Ouch...that's gotta sting!

Spoolin

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From what I understand they don't give you a new car they buy it back from you at full price...that way you can go and buy whatever you want.

badpanda

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And here I thought that my 72 Beetle was bad

PopaPork

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You're correct they buy it back at full value you bought it at. So you get (just numbers) $27,000 back 8 years later to put down on whatever you want. Nice deal.
When did a big 3 do that?

Blakbird24

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My mom's 2007 Accord got a new tranny at 19,519 miles. Sure it was covered under warranty, but that doesn't really help out Honda's image when this kind of work is needed at less than 20k miles!

PopaPork

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My dad had a Suburban and needed a new rear with less then 30,000 on it. Everyone has, "My XXXX had this happen to there XXXX with XXXX miles on it." those types of arguements are useless. "And everyone has, well my friends car lasted xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"

Face it there are flaws with every car/car company out there, that's why they give warranties in the first place. The difference with this than any other problem talked about in this thread are, they found a problem in cars 8 years old, well out of warranty and they are giving you full value for it, if it is found your truck has this problem.

So even if they have the worst cars in the world, people will look at this and it will hit home. "Hey they are standing behind their **** ups good for them. My Honda/chevy/ford/dodge dealer/company didn't when my XXXX went out, maybe I'll look at them next time I need a new car"

Image is everything specially now a days when everyone is hurting, if they have the shittest things out there but they own up to it, and fix it, well that looks alot better then a millon cars that are ****.

Gm could learn a thing or two from that play book and fix my damn roof and my damn hood, but no they won't they blame it on me, for not taking proper car of it. You can walk in with a TSB and they say it's fake and where did I get it because they don't have. They should say "Hey It looks like you're car is well maintaned and yeah we get alot of these so we'll fix it for free or you'll have to pay 100 buck decutable. But no....saddly they don't.

Jon5212

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They are nearly identical. AX4S, the standard taurus in 94 at least had A4OD I believe. I've owned 3 tauri all well over 100K miles, my last SHO which was a 98 the transmission let loose at 170K miles.

SparkyJJO

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My 93 taurus had 150k when I got rid of the car, and the powertrain was still original and still good.

Irunelevens

Tauruses were still widely known for having weak transmissions. There are always exceptions.

Jon5212

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Yes i've heard some of that... but having owned 3 thats quite a lot of exceptions for one person

mzoomora

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Mt brother broke 2 in under 50k. He still thought it was a good car.

Breathing Fire

My co worker just bought a new accord and the abs have cooked twice! Bad abs module. I thought honda was supposed to be wonderful. Thought they didn't have lems like that kuz its honda. Covered of course, but what happens when his warranty runs up and he is stuck with the bill. Props for Toyota, but a "truck" shouldn't be rotting like that and the fact that is is now more than just one platform from that company should tell you something.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed

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There are GM chassis still around from 50 years ago and haven't rusted through...

PopaPork

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But there are brand new camaros crapping out.
http://jalopnik.com/5232715/first-ca...rom-dealership

SparkyJJO

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So one has a frayed wire ground out. One. Too early to say Camaros.

PopaPork

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Hey I totally agree. It's just funny to see everyone jump on the "Oh they suck" bandwagon all the time when GM has the same problems. They're cars, they will have problems It call comes down to how they fix it and deal with it.

Spoolin

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And I've seen GM Chassis that are 4 years old that are broken in two already from rust. It's not the car, it's what you do with it and how you treat it.

+1 for what PapaPork said!