wannabess00

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Stewarts said repeatedly that hes not a news source. He commentates on the news rather then delivering it. Stewarts issue is with the laziness and sensationalism that exists in cable news. Which all 3 major networks are guilty of but Fox repeatedly contradicts itself as he shows quite often. Like how O Reilly is an advocate of "right to privacy" but then sends his goons to stalk people with a camera that wont come on his show. And Fox also repeatedly gives only half the story and welcomes the ignorance of its viewership to help gain ratings

ninjai_ruken

It'll never work here in MT, MT will pass laws making it Void. Just look what we did with the Gun Ban Laws. Mt stood up and told the government FAWK YOU! And we passed our own set of laws making it legal to own Firearms the Fed's Are Trying to Ban

wannabess00

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Socialism is form of government. You cant just use it as an adjective to justify a belief. Thats a series charge youre making. By that logic we would have to say that we already are socialist because we have a govt run military, fire, police, mail, soc sec, unemployment,ect. and the fact that the previous administration didnt do away with it must make them socialist as well. I think they are acting in such a manner because we are under extraordinary circumstances and unless they plan to make it final then its not socialism.

These standards are a needed to ensure a turn around in our climate. After all while we see the needs to take care of our problems at home, this is the entire planet we are talking about

Super Speed

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The problem isn't really cars, sure they produce alot of emissions, but this country gets so much of its energy as do others from coal... coal power plants is where the majority of our emissions are coming from...

RPM WS6

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No, these standards will not ensure any such turn around. Vehicle emissions as the end-all be-all of environmental concern is simply liberals blowing smoke up our asses.

Industrial polloution should be addressed before anyone worries about the smaller problem (cars). Actually, cars may not pesent much of a concern at all if large, commerical polloution was drastically reduced.

Spoolin

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I didn't know that this is the ONLY thing that the government was doing to reduce our dependency on foreign oil? The addiction to foreign oil effects everyone of us on different levels, and everylittle bit is gonna help.

Cleaner running cars also benefits us as consumers financially, as well as benefits our health.
Breathing this crap in everyday takes a toll...


I don't care if it saves all the bunnies and reduces global warming or whatever but there's no sense in us driving cars that are inefficient if we have the technology to do otherwise.

Spoolin

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Back it up with facts please.

Mong00z

Amen to that, brother. Right now Texas is fighting hard to keep its 2nd amendment rights as well as not put up with the rest of the BS the govt is trying to impose. Gov Rick Perry even said if this sorta thing continues, Texas doesn't have to put up with it, we have the option of succeeding from the union. . . But really all of this is just a sign of the times

2000Hawk

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Yeah it was my fault, misunderstood your original post.

By the way the government wants us to rely less on foreign oil, and instate a standard emissions testing. Yet it seems they have totally forgotten Earth Day when our amazing president was using a ton of fuel on Air Force One. To give a speech that he could have made from Washington. They want us to use less oil, yet they find whatever reason to fly across the country to give a useless speech.
-Joel

**And just because Cali is covered in a cloud of smog, doesn't mean they have the right to go and start changing the emissions crap in Florida. Almost the entire state of Florida is surrounded by water, most of that crap is blown out to sea. There is no need for us to deal with that emissions ****. And don't give some kind of Al Gore speech, because I'm sure even Al Gore knows he's full inconvenient ****.

jimmy169

#1 your car looks sick, great job with it and i wanna see more pics, lol. #2 little things add up very quickly, and when you have a bunch of little cars they add up as well, this is just the beginning of an overall plan to curb global warming, but i think there is a bigger reason for this that's not just global warming. The money we are sending over sea's is rediculous and most going to the middle east which never liked us very much, this will help keep that money here. Also right now gas price's have america by the *****, when they squeeze people feel it all around, food goes up, everything goes up, it got to the point real quick where trucker's went to mexico to fill up. At the rate our demand is going if we stay at our normal 15-30mpg vehicle's gas price's will only get higher and higher faster than we can handle which was shown last summer.

My point is it's not just global warming, or tree hugging liberals blowing smoke up our ***, your not the slightest annoyed of all the money going out of the U.S from higher and higher gas price's with ever growing demand?

edit: ah crap I can't even take my own advice, damnit, always have a lot to say on this subject.

wannabess00

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I dont understand why this has to be a "liberals blowing smoke"? Are you not educated enough to argue the scientists that are doing this or what. Call it political, but I think the only reason this has been turned into a right vs. left argument is because the corp. are financing the RNC to ensure that they can keep polluting the air and keep this industry in tact at least until they can adapt to it. We can play this right/left game all day but the truth is these are multi-billion dollar industries that stand to lose billions if we stop buying their products and they will want to defend that at all costs.And if they have to hire scientists or try to mislead the public to aid politicians who will help them they will. They have the money

nanokpsi

Sure, those are scialist ideas as well, but none of what you mention are businesses mean to make a profit. Giving money to the automakers was a huge mistrake. They are both going to go bankrupt anyways. What a monumental waste of money. To top it off, the governemt is basically telling most of the secured creditors for Chrysler to f-off and giving ownership to the Unions. Have you forgotten how well that worked for the airlines? They went into bankruptcy two years later.

The problem with the US is that we think we can solve the worlds problems, when we can't even solve our own. We can't even secure our border, but we want to stop global warming. Yeah ****** right. I'm not buying into the liberl's "green" agenda either. It's just trying to get more poliktical capitol to keep the socialists retards in power.

wannabess00

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For starters, I am UAW and my father and grandfathers are as well. These companies have been in business for years and handled these situations fine for years. Our current handling of how we do business in this country has made workers too costly, not the unions. And we're not going to give up health care and pensions and fair wages because people continue to vote for politicians that want to keep the status quo and let the corporations do business like a bunch of wild animals. And the airline businesses went bankrupt because they were bad business

2ndly, Theres plenty of profit to be made in these new green standards and I hope to see Exxon and BP get on board and help this out and still turn a profit. We can still have fast powerful cars and be less harmful at the same time

Spoolin

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Like I said N.I.M.B.Y.

I like how your solution is letting all of it blow out to sea...

Spoolin

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I agree that there's plenty of profit to be had by the oil companies they are just reluctant to leave their golden egg.
Also nobody is asking you to give up pension or health care but the "fair" wages are debatable. Too often people point the fingers at each other (i.e. the UAW at GM and GM at UAW and blah blah blah) It's all related and all part of how the situation got to where it now is.

Blackened2k

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All I have to say is take your soap box and go learn mandarin because China passed the US in CO2 output in 2006. And with Asia's almost exponential growth rate they will be DWARFING every other country in greenhouse gas production within 10 years.

wannabess00

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Debatable if you believe we make the $$amount analysts say we do and if you base it on the former tier scale that GM no longer pays. Most people dont correctly present the facts nor how the cost is figured

wannabess00

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That is a sad fact. And China refuses to participate in environmental programs and efforts to help. I think some day they'll come around though. Theyll do whats cheapest

2000Hawk

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My point is that they want the entire country to conform to california standard, why? What is it about California and their standard that's so amazing. Even with all the emissions crap that place still has a haze over it. Problem I have with it is how long until it moves from new cars to older cars? Sure older cars won't pass the new standard so how long until they give a limit to how long cars could be on the road? Before we know it we might need to rebuild the engine in our car after xxxxx amount of miles, or be forced to buy a new one. And just because we are going to pass tougher emissions test, doesn't mean the rest of the world will. So here's the government trying to play captain planet, when for all we know nobody else gives a damn.

I've already made my point on the entire oil scenario. Even if all cars pulled off 100mpg we will still be acquiring our oil from the middle east. And with us buying less oil where will the price of fuel jump to?
-Joel

GMmexican

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UMMMMMMMMM yeah all you have to do is hit up a sponsor and have $$$$ and order your heads and cam package