Youshallgofo

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Idk what people are worried about. To get into the V6 mustang game you gotta pay 24 grand. Imagine what you could get with that into an f-body.

jmurray87

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Now imagine this, This V6 and the Camaro V6.....are already dam quick and to think GM and Ford are thinking about bringing out TTV6 models as well..


6-7 days we will get 2011 Camaro engine specs...hopefully they bumped the HP in the cars or shed some weight off them...or both

ss1129

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I dont think there are many places to shed weight on this car. At least to factory standards.

Irunelevens

False.
******' ricer.

Youshallgofo

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Its true. You can't compare car to car, you always have to compare $ to $. Stock for Stock a new Toyota Rav 4 is faster than a 80's 5.0, but which are you going to buy if you want to build a drag racing car.

unit213

You might want to check into that a little bit more. Regarding the $$$ aspect, you're involved in the wrong hobby is money is tight for you.
Newsflash: $24K is NOTHING for a car these days.

LS1LT1

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And ya really can't compare a new car to an old one either and still claim that it's a true apples to apples comparison.
From a strictly bang for the buck performance only perspective yes that old modified 5.0 is the better choice but when one factors in things such as fuel economy, safety devices and warranty (not important to some but certainly important to many) then it can suddenly lose it's appeal.
New Mustang V6s should be compared to new Camaro V6s and Challenger V6s.
And old 5.0s should probably be matched up with old 3rg gen F-bodies or even turbo Regals.

lemons12

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Ls1s went for 30K+ when they were new.

brians91formula

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My bone stock LS1 ran 13.3 at 108mph with a 2.2 60ft on street tires. With a little more practice it could have gone high 12's I bet.

Its funny how some LS1's very so much in quarter mile times. I think the new v6 Mustang is impressive but I wouldnt say its on par with an LS1. Come on people...use your head.

unit213

They don't. There are a lot of variables that contribute to the difference in ET's....track prep, DA, driver ability, etc.

LS1LT1

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I agree, they really don't vary all that much, it's all of the surrounding elements/factors that cause the disparity in ETs.
Other essential factors are which model, options and transmission choice...a fully loaded Trans Am convertible automatic with 2.73 gears wouldn't stand a chance against a well driven, low option, hardtop Z28 manual, up to a 200+ pound weight difference between the two cars yet they have the exact same motor.

01formula6

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Just playing a little devils advocate here. Don't other V6 cars run just as fast if not faster, yet get NO respect around here. First thing that comes to mind is the 350Z and 370Z. Why does a 13.7 from a Mustang strike fear into the hearts of LS1 owners everywhere, yet you get crucified for putting "350Z/370Z" and "quick" in the same sentence?

udienow

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Yeah I agree. Use the spare $14k in your wallet for some headers and the mustang is not even a sweat anymore.

Also I don't get the big deal... v6's have been running 13's for many years... look at nissans v6 for instance.

ThisBlood147

Because the 350/370 Z's are the tip of Nissan's affordable sports car spear. The V6 Mustang and Camaro, on the other hand......are just the cheap alternatives to their V8 powered big brothers. If the Z's had higher performance turbo models, for instance, then I could see going with your argument. But the fact is that those cars are designed to fight against the Mustang GT's and Camaro SS'........the sixxer ponies are just designed to make money off of the more expensive model's styling and character.

Besides, the Z's are 2 seaters. Different car segment altogether really from a base model pony car........not to mention much more expensive.

Irunelevens

People give them **** on here because they are imports. If the 370Z had been the new Pontiac Solstice coupe, all the people here that hate them would magically love it cuz it has a Pontiac badge. Some people are that simple.

Youshallgofo

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What kind of response is that. When is money not a factor? especially when were talking about more than 10 grand. Ok, sorry, why even talk about these cars at all then, lets just all go out and buy Vipers or F430s, if you can't afford those you shouldn't be a car enthusiast. there are a lot of people, even on this forum that consider cost before purchasing a performance car or doing mods to their cars.

And you missed the point, I was saying that a V6 mustang can't compare to an LS1 F-body because of how much more it costs. If you want an affordable 13 second car, an F-body is a better choice still simply because of how much cheaper it is and its potential that it has proven to have. A C5 Z06 is $24k and could waste an F-body, that doesn't mean we f-body owners should all **** out pants.

LS1LT1

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Valid point but have you priced a 370Z lately?
Once the discounts and rebates kick in (and they very likely will eventually) on these base model Mustangs and Camaros they will be selling for under $21k in some cases. Even now you can get them for under $24k.
Mustangs/Camaros have back seats (albeit small ones) and 370Zs don't. Now, G37s have back seats can ya really compare nearly $40k+ car to a $24k one?
And as mentioned above yes, the 370Z is a top shelf flagship model sports car, Mustang/Camaro V6s are mere bread and butter grocery getter sport coupes yet are still making big power at a bargain price.
And among my personal reasons for going a little gaga over these two cars, I'm very proud that they're made by Ford and GM, iconic/legendary American car companies.
All that being said, I do happen to like the 370Z and consider it a decent sports/performance car value.

LS1LT1

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Exactly.
And there's something wrong with that?
People hate certain politicians because they're either republicans or democrats.
When that same politician changes their platform and swings to the other side they might suddenly love them.
Same with baseball players, ya might hate a guy because he plays for the Red Sox.
Next year he gets traded to the Yankees and you're suddenly buying his jersey to wear to all of the games.
Same thing here.

Sarge_13

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The '05+ GT's have run as fast as 13.3 and consistently run mid 13's ********.

Irunelevens

Yes, but nothing you are saying makes any sense, and you are basically admitting that point of view is dumb. I am proud when good cars are made in this country, but I don't talk trash about great cars that are made in other countries.