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Old 05-05-2010, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BanditTA
Maybe they'll start over and call the newest version an ....LS1
I don't know why no one thinks to say LS10, 11, 12...why does it only have to be a single digit?!

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oh no. guess what the ls1 will become. it will replace what the lt1 is now. now all you ******** can find out how it feels to be **** on for having an older motor. hahahah


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Whoa?! Bitter much? You do realize that makes you the new L98, right?
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Originally Posted by ElkySS
oh no. guess what the ls1 will become. it will replace what the lt1 is now. now all you ******** can find out how it feels to be **** on for having an older motor. hahahah


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Nope. Just like the SBC and BBC, the LSx will continue to have a solid place in the performance aftermarket. The LTx never had that, really. Nothing like SBC/BBC/LSx. We are just now reaching the full potential of the LSx platform.

The SBC/BBC is the older big brother. The LSx is the young upstart. Sorry to say, the LTx is the bastard stepchild.

For that matter, the performance aftermarket might not take after this upcoming generation quite as well as the LSx. We've seen that happen too. Back in the day, I know several people who pulled the weaker, newer engines and dropped in SBC/BBC's in their place.
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Originally Posted by justin455
I don't know why no one thinks to say LS10, 11, 12...why does it only have to be a single digit?!
All GM RPOs are only three digits. It's been that way since at least the '60s, probably longer.

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Nope. Just like the SBC and BBC, the LSx will continue to have a solid place in the performance aftermarket.
I agree, the LSx has become the modern version of the Gen I SBC (which, by the way, can still be built to make just as much power as any LS1.....just without the same level of efficiency). For however long we have gasoline, people will be building LSx and Gen 1 SBC motors, you can count on that.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
All GM RPOs are only three digits. It's been that way since at least the '60s, probably longer.



I agree, the LSx has become the modern version of the Gen I SBC (which, by the way, can still be built to make just as much power as any LS1.....just without the same level of efficiency). For however long we have gasoline, people will be building LSx and Gen 1 SBC motors, you can count on that.
Damn, I completely forgot about that.

Whatever they do I think they can come up something new. Instead of recycling old codes again. How bout a third go-round for LT1 or LS6 anyone?
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Anyone else curious or concerned about GM saying that they will be producing aluminum blocks exclusively.
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Anyone else curious or concerned about GM saying that they will be producing aluminum blocks exclusively.
not personally, but I can understand the frustration for you boost guys.
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Yup yup, that would be my concern!!
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
OHV is a very important aspect to maintain. GM has done wonders with the old, simple pushrod arrangement, I hope it stays that way. There is no need to complicate things with a multi-cam arrangement V8, Ford has already proven that this style will never be superior to a well designed OHV V8 engine.

I remember someone here recently posting a pic of a Nissan 3.5L V6 next to an LSx motor, the LSx looked so tiny and compact while the 3.5L looked like a 426 Hemi. Reduced external engine dementions are another big advantage of an OHV setup.
...as well as lower weight in this particular case as well of course.
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Originally Posted by justin455
I don't know why no one thinks to say LS10, 11, 12...why does it only have to be a single digit?!
i still hold out hope for a GM all out hyper car with an LS10 or LS12 (as in cylinders)

Whoa?! Bitter much? You do realize that makes you the new L98, right?


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Anyone else curious or concerned about GM saying that they will be producing aluminum blocks exclusively.
i think VA speed has put together a few 1500+hp combos in the LS2 block. i dont really think it is that much of a weak point, but for peace of mind, iron will suffice.

Originally Posted by ElkySS
oh no. guess what the ls1 will become. it will replace what the lt1 is now. now all you ******** can find out how it feels to be **** on for having an older motor. hahahah


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pissed you bought the wrong motor?


















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or am i?
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
iirc the gen v supposed to be di 3v ohv ls engines.
i can only imagine what the new breed of the ls engines heads will flow with 2 intake valves and di technology. we may see the day of 500+hp 5.3 n/a motors with those new heads
source? with the redonkulous intake valve size of the L92 heads, id bbe more inclined to believe in a 2nd exhaust valve.....but im no expert.
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Have they been planning to do this for long? Or did the '11 Stang make them decide to go back to the drawing board?
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Originally Posted by justin455
Whoa?! Bitter much? You do realize that makes you the new L98, right?
FUUUUUUUUUUU

lol nah im just ****** around. and no i didnt buy the wrong motor. id much rather beat an ls1 with an lt1 over another ls1. ls1 guys hate it so much
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Originally Posted by WSsick
source? with the redonkulous intake valve size of the L92 heads, id bbe more inclined to believe in a 2nd exhaust valve.....but im no expert.
there wont be a 3v head. it was part of a patent for gm's twin in block cam setup (2 cams, one above the other, in the block)
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didn't some company already make a 4 valve head for the LSx engines.
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Originally Posted by 00MaroonZ28
didn't some company already make a 4 valve head for the LSx engines.
yes, but its junk/vaporware.
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The LS1 will never become "the LT1."
Old 05-25-2010, 03:16 PM
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btw, the next step is not more valves, its direct injection. beyond that... camless engines.
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Camless engines would be badass!! Just like the F1 motors. The adjustments for power, tq curve, lope at idle, etc. would be nearly limitless (minus any PTV issues)
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Who says the GenV engines will have an LSx designation? Maybe they'll be LY or LW or L*anything. Whatever they are, I have complete faith in the General kicking some *** with them.
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Mmmmm.........No cam and digitally activated hydraulic valves .


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