Edmunds - Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG vs Cadillac CTS-V
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To give you an idea of how sweet the V is, I got rid of my 5800 mile '08 AO Z06 for it. I don't miss the Z one bit.
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"Classier"?
Can a car actually have 'class'? I thought only people can have that LOL.
Lots of crack dealers/pimps/raping murderers drive Mercedes Benz's, would that still make them classy?
Or if a philanthropic Yale/Harvard doctorate Peace Corp/Red Cross volunteer drives a Cadillac does he/she still have less class than the average Mercedes driver?
While that is strictly subjective and entirely open to personal opinion, I still don't know if I'd go that far.
As a matter of fact, in talking with other fellow car enthusiasts about the CTS-V (old one or new one) I have yet to find even one who would agree with that.
Can a car actually have 'class'? I thought only people can have that LOL.
Lots of crack dealers/pimps/raping murderers drive Mercedes Benz's, would that still make them classy?
Or if a philanthropic Yale/Harvard doctorate Peace Corp/Red Cross volunteer drives a Cadillac does he/she still have less class than the average Mercedes driver?
While that is strictly subjective and entirely open to personal opinion, I still don't know if I'd go that far.
As a matter of fact, in talking with other fellow car enthusiasts about the CTS-V (old one or new one) I have yet to find even one who would agree with that.
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"Classier"?
Can a car actually have 'class'? I thought only people can have that LOL.
Lots of crack dealers/pimps/raping murderers drive Mercedes Benz's, would that still make them classy?
Or if a philanthropic Yale/Harvard doctorate Peace Corp/Red Cross volunteer drives a Cadillac does he/she still have less class than the average Mercedes driver?
Can a car actually have 'class'? I thought only people can have that LOL.
Lots of crack dealers/pimps/raping murderers drive Mercedes Benz's, would that still make them classy?
Or if a philanthropic Yale/Harvard doctorate Peace Corp/Red Cross volunteer drives a Cadillac does he/she still have less class than the average Mercedes driver?
I don't think this notion is that thought provoking... Maybe I'm the only one that thinks like this?
And that's not to say I look down on people driving a subjectively "less classier" car (after all, I drive a god damn F-body with a daily driver Sentra lol). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so on and so forth.
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Yes, I do believe a car can have the attribute of "class". Everybody makes a quick judgement call by glancing at a car. You see a clapped out LX stang sitting next to a new Mercedes, one clearly adheres to a higher standard. To be classy is to be stylish and sophisticated. Granted, just because you drive a more expensive car doesn't automatically mean YOU are classy.
And that's exactly how I view Cadillac's current line up as well. I don't automatically give the nod of 'class' or 'upscale' to certain vehicles based solely on their nameplate or the public's general (and often wrong) perception of it.
"Oh it's a Mercedes/BMW so it must be classier." Not me man LOL.
Mercedes' old base 190 and BMW's 318ti come into play here as well.
Do keep in mind that Cadillac was among THE standard of the world back in the day, owning one 50-75 years ago held nearly as much weight as owning a Mercedes or possibly even a Rolls Royce.
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Point taken.
And that's exactly how I view Cadillac's current line up as well. I don't automatically give the nod of 'class' or 'upscale' to certain vehicles based solely on their nameplate or the public's general (and often wrong) perception of it.
"Oh it's a Mercedes/BMW so it must be classier." Not me man LOL.
Do keep in mind that Cadillac was among THE standard of the world back in the day, owning one 50-75 years ago held nearly as much weight as owning a Mercedes or possibly even a Rolls Royce.
And that's exactly how I view Cadillac's current line up as well. I don't automatically give the nod of 'class' or 'upscale' to certain vehicles based solely on their nameplate or the public's general (and often wrong) perception of it.
"Oh it's a Mercedes/BMW so it must be classier." Not me man LOL.
Do keep in mind that Cadillac was among THE standard of the world back in the day, owning one 50-75 years ago held nearly as much weight as owning a Mercedes or possibly even a Rolls Royce.
Cadillac is STILL a standard and will always be one of the greats that cars compare themselves to (although I would argue that they really came into their own again only recently). Just in this particular case, I say the C63 is close enough to the V in terms of speed that the overall package that Mercedes offers is the one I would choose to drive. That's of course my opinion. An argument over a subjective view is usually a moot one. I would be happy with either a V or C63 amg in my garage, but if I have the choice, it's going to be the Benz.
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I would choose a C63 over a V. The decision would be tough, but having driven both platforms, the Mercedes is built to be completely comfortable and easy to drive. It's a weird feeling driving a car like that, but I could definitely get used to it.
Cadillac is getting there as far as comfort and drive ability goes. But they still aren't quite at the level of Mercedes.
Cadillac is getting there as far as comfort and drive ability goes. But they still aren't quite at the level of Mercedes.
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I would like to point out that the C class is in a different class than the CTS-V, hence the weight difference.
The CTS-V is midsized, while the C class is more compact.
This is kind of funny about the C class coupe though...
Separated at birth:
Honda Accord Coupe
The CTS-V is midsized, while the C class is more compact.
This is kind of funny about the C class coupe though...
Separated at birth:
Honda Accord Coupe
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Excellent point, I would think that the heavier and more costly E class (E63) would be the more logical comparison to the CTS-V.
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No doubt, it is strictly my opinion of the styling. I've not cared for Cadillac's styling formula for the better part of the last decade. Too many gaunt angles and broad, flat, uninterrupted surfaces. While I do agree the V coupe has that aggressive, beastly stance to it...it simply isn't something I would consider slick or sexy. Kind of the same feelings I have when I look at the Mad Max Interceptor.