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Old 11-15-2011, 12:40 PM
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I have always been a Mustang hater but I am starting to change my tune.
Old 11-15-2011, 01:14 PM
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Specs sound incredibly promising, let's see what happens when it comes out.
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Originally Posted by texas94z
The ZL1 will attract new buyers and the GM loyal. The GT500 will only attract the Ford Loyal.
I love how everyone clings to sales figures now that the Camaro is leading sales, but back in the 90s when Mustang always lead in sales we'd hear "well the F-body is a better car all around." The Camaro is leading in sales because it was gone for 9 years - that's the only reason.

That said, I will disagree with your comment above. I am GM loyal, but I'd buy a new GT500 before a ZL1 without question. Performance for the dollar is where my money would land if I were in the market to buy.
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To all you guys talking about how the auto ZL1 is going to be easier to drive and will hang in a straight line. Did you miss the part about how the GT500 will also offer an auto with launch control? Unless the ZL1's suspension is miles better I don't see how it keeps up with a car 350 lbs lighter with 70 more hp.
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Originally Posted by 01formula6
To all you guys talking about how the auto ZL1 is going to be easier to drive and will hang in a straight line. Did you miss the part about how the GT500 will also offer an auto with launch control? Unless the ZL1's suspension is miles better I don't see how it keeps up with a car 350 lbs lighter with 70 more hp.
Basically. I think a lot of people just read the vital stats (hp/tq) and ignored the rest of the article. This new GT500 is going to be a damn nice car.

That's enough Ford praising for me today. I feel dirty...
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Yes, because people that can afford a $50-60k car can't afford to spend another $600 or so on a good set of drag tires.
It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. When was the last time you randomly rolled up on a Z06, GT500, or even a base model brand new Corvette and they had a decent tire on them? I never have, and I bet you haven't either. Besides, this new GT500 will need more than just a good radial to hook.
Old 11-15-2011, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 01formula6
To all you guys talking about how the auto ZL1 is going to be easier to drive and will hang in a straight line. Did you miss the part about how the GT500 will also offer an auto with launch control? Unless the ZL1's suspension is miles better I don't see how it keeps up with a car 350 lbs lighter with 70 more hp.
the article only states that there's a new traction control. There's no word about it having an auto trans.
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Originally Posted by SilverBullet73
the article only states that there's a new traction control. There's no word about it having an auto trans.
That's what I got out of it too. Probably push a button or two, hold the throttle to the floor, dump the clutch and a computer does the rest to control wheelspin.
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Yeah that's probably what it's gonna be like. But I would venture a guess that this car is every bit as fast as a Z06, with traction...maybe even a little faster.
Old 11-15-2011, 04:05 PM
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I'll come out and say it.. The ZL1 specific parts on the Camaro are awkward looking, and that Mustang is on point.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. When was the last time you randomly rolled up on a Z06, GT500, or even a base model brand new Corvette and they had a decent tire on them? I never have, and I bet you haven't either. Besides, this new GT500 will need more than just a good radial to hook.
Anyone that's seriously into racing is going to throw a decent tire on it, the average driver you see on the streets isn't going to but he also isn't likely to race. I bet if you show up at a track most GT500s will have a good tire on them, and it isn't going to take much (if any) more than a good tire to get these into the 10s. I think someone with a 2011-12 GT500 has pulled an 11.1 all stock with just tires, 100 more horsepower should get it into the 10s pretty easily.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Just kinda depends. The Camaro is still outselling the Mustang despite the Mustang performing better.

A lot of people buy the Camaros for the style. A lot of people are brand loyal. It will hurt sales for people looking for all out performance/bragging rights who cross shop if it runs the numbers to back up its bark.

Impressive car no matter how you slice it though.
This... Just remember the ZL1 was created in mind to compete with the 2011/12 GT500 NOT the 2013 GT500.. So Ford is responding to the ZL1. Just means GM will respond back with with some more hp & hopefully weight reduction. People say GM needs to catch up? Chevy comes out with the LT1 Camaro in 1993. Ford Comes out its new Mustang in 1994. Chevy comes out with the LS1 Camaro in 1998. Ford comes out with its new Mustang in 1999. Chevy then comes out with the 2010 Camaro. Ford responds with the 5.0 Mustang. Chevy comes out with the 2012 ZL1. Ford responds with the 2013 GT500
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
I have always been a Mustang hater but I am starting to change my tune.
I agree sadly.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
The only thing this new GT500 is going to eat is tires. It will be a tire smoking dud on the street, unless you're into ricer racing.
Yeah, it will definitely have some traction issues. However, all it needs is a decent tire out back and it's game over.
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But who can afford an $80,000 Mustang? The reason the 1960's were the 'Golden Age' of muscle cars is because the 'average Joe' could afford to buy one. These new muscle cars have awesome power but no one I know can afford one.
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Originally Posted by 19kiloz28
But who can afford an $80,000 Mustang?
I think itll be closer to $55,000...
Old 11-15-2011, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mac62989
I think itll be closer to $55,000...
Agreed, I don't see it starting at anything more than $55k as the current GT500 starts at $48k.
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Originally Posted by 19kiloz28
But who can afford an $80,000 Mustang? The reason the 1960's were the 'Golden Age' of muscle cars is because the 'average Joe' could afford to buy one. These new muscle cars have awesome power but no one I know can afford one.
WTF are you talking about?
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Looking pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRdtOgpIak
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Anyone that's seriously into racing is going to throw a decent tire on it
Anyone seriously into racing isn't going to buy a $60K Mustang, unless they bleed blue and have deep pockets. Those cars will never be seen on the street. The ones you will find plenty of will be driven by the same guys you find behind the wheel of a new Corvette.


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