2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 - 5.8L/650hp/200+ MPH
#162
But let's not forget that the ZL1 will be available with an automatic which can be a great equalizer from a dig, especially against the current 550hp GT500.
That 70hp advantage for 2013 (if it actually happens) will be tough to beat though, that's enough 'padding' to give even a weak manual driver the ability to keep up/win. And any highway/roll race win goes to the 2013 GT500 every time.
#164
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this...
Does it really matter that the handling is going to be so great on the ZL1; when most drivers will never even be able to use it to it's full extent?
I drove a friends C6 Z06, and can tell you that most drivers aren't good enough drivers to even see half of what that car was built for...there is more car than there is driver.
If I wanted a car that handled exceptionally well, I would step up to the base Corvette over the Camero any day of the week.
Does it really matter that the handling is going to be so great on the ZL1; when most drivers will never even be able to use it to it's full extent?
I drove a friends C6 Z06, and can tell you that most drivers aren't good enough drivers to even see half of what that car was built for...there is more car than there is driver.
If I wanted a car that handled exceptionally well, I would step up to the base Corvette over the Camero any day of the week.
They brag about their handling(and hopefully back up) because it's down on power, and it needs to be able to make up for it in some other form of way, and hopefully the GM fans will be in for a pleasant surprise, hopefully
Remember how impressive the 08 Cobalt SS was when it came out? It was being compared to the EVO? I hope the ZL1 can back it up!
#165
It's all about bragging rights, kinda why everyone is wanting to hand each other their asses lol
Chill out kids, it's not a ferrari, a mustang will get your an equal amount of attention as a camaro and vise versa.
Even if the Camaro loses, GM still got the Vette
Chill out kids, it's not a ferrari, a mustang will get your an equal amount of attention as a camaro and vise versa.
Even if the Camaro loses, GM still got the Vette
#166
Against a manual ZL1 (and with equal drivers), I'd probably agree with all of the above.
But let's not forget that the ZL1 will be available with an automatic which can be a great equalizer from a dig, especially against the current 550hp GT500.
That 70hp advantage for 2013 (if it actually happens) will be tough to beat though, that's enough 'padding' to give even a weak manual driver the ability to keep up/win. And any highway/roll race win goes to the 2013 GT500 every time.
But let's not forget that the ZL1 will be available with an automatic which can be a great equalizer from a dig, especially against the current 550hp GT500.
That 70hp advantage for 2013 (if it actually happens) will be tough to beat though, that's enough 'padding' to give even a weak manual driver the ability to keep up/win. And any highway/roll race win goes to the 2013 GT500 every time.
I saying it now, the '13 will go mid 11s@124-126 with an average driver...that launch control is pretty neat, MM+FF had a decent write up on it
I'd estimate the ZL1 averaging low low 12s, with a good driver and or auto cars going high 11s