TheHitman

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The STI BRZ is more than likely not going to have a turbo(IIRC Subaru already said it wouldn't, but I'm not 100% on that), so short of doing an engine swap or building and turbocharging the stock engine, this thing is going to be SLOW.[/QUOTE]

I highly doubt this car is going to get passed at a road course by Camrys. Like I said, the car lacks power but it won't be lacking at all in the handling department. Hell it might be a great LS swap platform when it comes out.

Irunelevens

If the STI version runs mid 13s, it is going to be an absolute ball to drive fast. Even the base car will be extremely fun.

juniorz28

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Well said sir lol

gocartone

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That's the problem, I doubt either version is going to run any better than mid-14s with a good driver. Time will tell, but so far the power and weight numbers are almost identical to that of a Type-R Integra (197HP, 26XXlbs), which ran high-14s to low-15s (and also came out ~15 years ago).

Irunelevens

The Type R Integra ran mid 14s with a good driver. They were also FWD. So my bet is this car will be at least that quick. We still don't know about gearing, but it is RWD and has more torque than the Integra. As for the upcoming ~250hp version, you really think a car with that much power and that little weight won't run better than mid 14s?

nanokpsi

The type r may have been fwd but its not like it was hampered out of the hole with that power.

Also, i doubt 50hp will.shave more ring an a second off of the quarter mile time.

It will have a hard time competing with the 2.0t genesis coupe which has 271hp.this year and has a track pack with brembos. Not to mention much more power potential from boltons.

Irunelevens

It wasn't hampered, but it still didn't get off the line as well as a RWD car with more torque that weighs the same. Subaru released technical specs, btw... 2,689lbs for the BRZ. I'll change my prediction to 14.4 @ 97mph. Might go quicker, but we'll see.

http://i.autoblog.com/2011/11/28/sub...z-sport-coupe/

TriShield

Production base model BRZ.

SparkyJJO

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It looks... the same. down to the turn signal location.

I8ASaleen

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Oh look they came up with something to compete with the Civic Si...of 2005. Seriously, toyota was making the same power in it's 20V engines back in the late 90's. FAIL

Irunelevens

Oh look, somebody else that missed the point...

I8ASaleen

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Really? Let's see, how did that last venture into the RWD ~200hp great handling car end for toyota? As I remember the last respectably powered MR2's stopped selling in 95.

Irunelevens

The MR2 was pulled out of America because the sports car market here collapsed. Same with the RX7, Nissan Z, and 3000GT.

proxemics

I would consider this car for daily use and keep my GT500 for the weekends

DiscerningZ32

The MR-S had amazing handling too.
It wasn't exactly a success either...

I8ASaleen

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Thank you. I see good sales the first couple of years, then dying off until they pull it and shove more Prius's up our noses.

Any word as to whether this is replacing the Tc?

TriShield

Real seats.

TriShield

Dat STi

Irunelevens

That's a pointless parallel to draw, because we are talking about two COMPLETELY different cars. I think some of you people just like to bitch about everything; we're talking about a car that weighs the same as a Mini Cooper S (which everybody can agree is a fun car), but has basically 40hp more, and is RWD. With the largest emphasis placed on light weight and handling, which so many of you pretend to care about. And it's even rumored to start at a great price. But it doesn't run 12s, so it sucks.

Nine Ball

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The blue Subaru version above looks much better than the Toyota.

LOL @ LF-A being on par with an Aventador. I've seen a few of both in person, there is no comparison there. Aventador >>>>> LFA. Most people walk by an LF-A thinking it is a 20-year old Supra with a body kit.