ZL1 test video *better driver*
02-09-2012, 03:53 PM
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No stats like them testing it at the ring and not producing a time. That should tell a story there.
How often do high performance cars go there to test and not reveal times, especially with trigger happy Ford who loves to try and 1 up GM every chance it can get?
How often do high performance cars go there to test and not reveal times, especially with trigger happy Ford who loves to try and 1 up GM every chance it can get?
02-09-2012, 04:35 PM
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^^They might be waiting to surprise everyone with how fast it is, you never know. Nobody had even the slightest idea that this car was coming when they were already testing it on the Ring (which again, is a horseshit way to test cars, and Ford has never been one to post it's Ring times). Clearly they aren't worried about the ZL1, unlike Chevy is with the GT500.
I can't wait until they actually start testing it to end all of this!
I can't wait until they actually start testing it to end all of this!
02-09-2012, 04:38 PM
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02-09-2012, 04:41 PM
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they haven't posted either because it's slower than they'd like, or they're waiting till the hype dies down a little.
now in one of the other threads about this, someone linked to a guy that was from the camaro5 forums? supposedly he was at the ring and able to clock them sort of? he claimed one in the mid 7:4's, and the other in the mid 7:3's. i don't think that word can be taken though........
now in one of the other threads about this, someone linked to a guy that was from the camaro5 forums? supposedly he was at the ring and able to clock them sort of? he claimed one in the mid 7:4's, and the other in the mid 7:3's. i don't think that word can be taken though........
02-09-2012, 05:22 PM
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High 11's on an unprepped surface and street tires is very impressive. It also looked like he was not utilizing the no lift shift feature...which could have added another tenth or two. The current gt500 has never touched those numbers on stock tires and a prepped track. And we still havent seen what private owners can do.
I dont doubt some may get close to mid 11's bone stock and stock tires with a well prepped track and better DA.
I dont doubt some may get close to mid 11's bone stock and stock tires with a well prepped track and better DA.
02-09-2012, 05:26 PM
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A few other things to point out.
It is not warm in Arizona at 4000ft this time of year.
At 4000ft on a speed track racing a blower car vs a na car isn't exactly ideal. guarantee you the Boss was hurting for some air.
Should have been 2012 GT500 vs the ZR1 in the test.
It is not warm in Arizona at 4000ft this time of year.
At 4000ft on a speed track racing a blower car vs a na car isn't exactly ideal. guarantee you the Boss was hurting for some air.
Should have been 2012 GT500 vs the ZR1 in the test.
02-09-2012, 06:55 PM
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that is of course presuming that the loose nut behind the wheel knows how to shift.
02-09-2012, 06:59 PM
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The Shelby will outrun the Boss in the 1/4, no doubt about that but I don't see the purpose for the Boss if the Shelby smokes it on a road course other than a collector car. The Shelby will be carrying more weight also. I know more HP than the weight difference but still. And the ZL1 is being tested, the '13 Shelby is not.
02-09-2012, 06:59 PM
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it or not yet, but I was shocked to see how bad the drivers of Road and Track SUCK. They ran a 12.9 with the ZL1 when comparing it to the nissan GTR. I was like wow dude's , stock SS's run that and we all know it so why is R&T trying to feed us bullshit...stooopid magazines
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it or not yet, but I was shocked to see how bad the drivers of Road and Track SUCK. They ran a 12.9 with the ZL1 when comparing it to the nissan GTR. I was like wow dude's , stock SS's run that and we all know it so why is R&T trying to feed us bullshit...stooopid magazines
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the 013 shelby test mule was just sold on auction. does that qualify for "out"?
02-09-2012, 08:53 PM
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Ford did not rent out the track. You cannot readily compare times between a track with traffic, to a time achieved without.
Have you seen all of the equipemnt in the cars when the test up there? They are monitoring thousands of variables, and usung the data to come up with he best handling car. When have you seen Ford ever post a 'Ring time?
02-09-2012, 10:26 PM
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If the 559 HP LSA CTS-V can do 11.80's on skinnier tires in a heavier car/worse suspension...it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever to see the ZL1 in the mid 11's bone stock. I've been saying this since the HP numbers were released...and everyone thought I was nuts.
I believe I placed a bet of sorts with Irunelevens that we'd see a bone stock 11.70 run within the first month of arrival to dealerships, or something to that effect months ago
I believe I placed a bet of sorts with Irunelevens that we'd see a bone stock 11.70 run within the first month of arrival to dealerships, or something to that effect months ago
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If the 559 HP LSA CTS-V can do 11.80's on skinnier tires in a heavier car/worse suspension...it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever to see the ZL1 in the mid 11's bone stock. I've been saying this since the HP numbers were released...and everyone thought I was nuts.
I believe I placed a bet of sorts with Irunelevens that we'd see a bone stock 11.70 run within the first month of arrival to dealerships, or something to that effect months ago
I believe I placed a bet of sorts with Irunelevens that we'd see a bone stock 11.70 run within the first month of arrival to dealerships, or something to that effect months ago
02-10-2012, 07:55 AM
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It has been posted a million times...
Ford did not rent out the track. You cannot readily compare times between a track with traffic, to a time achieved without.
Have you seen all of the equipemnt in the cars when the test up there? They are monitoring thousands of variables, and usung the data to come up with he best handling car. When have you seen Ford ever post a 'Ring time?
Ford did not rent out the track. You cannot readily compare times between a track with traffic, to a time achieved without.
Have you seen all of the equipemnt in the cars when the test up there? They are monitoring thousands of variables, and usung the data to come up with he best handling car. When have you seen Ford ever post a 'Ring time?
How often did Chevy test at the ring until the c6 came out?
Im highly sceptical that since Ford has been 1uping GM at every chance since the 11' mustang with its "our v6 has 5 more hp" our v6 gets 1 more mpg, then our gt gets more mpg, our gt500 has more hp, our gt500 hits 200mph....yet Im not supposed to believe they dont have a time for that car around the ring? Please.
02-10-2012, 09:58 AM
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How often have you seen Ford testing at the ring?
How often did Chevy test at the ring until the c6 came out?
Im highly sceptical that since Ford has been 1uping GM at every chance since the 11' mustang with its "our v6 has 5 more hp" our v6 gets 1 more mpg, then our gt gets more mpg, our gt500 has more hp, our gt500 hits 200mph....yet Im not supposed to believe they dont have a time for that car around the ring? Please.
How often did Chevy test at the ring until the c6 came out?
Im highly sceptical that since Ford has been 1uping GM at every chance since the 11' mustang with its "our v6 has 5 more hp" our v6 gets 1 more mpg, then our gt gets more mpg, our gt500 has more hp, our gt500 hits 200mph....yet Im not supposed to believe they dont have a time for that car around the ring? Please.
It would seem the other way around to me..(IE) Camaro V-6 was first rated @ 304 -312 -and now 323 hp ..The Mustang has stayed constant @ 305. The GT500 had a increase due to improvements with the block etc. The Mustang GT had to increase to compete andthe 4.6 Liter was well overdue for a change. GM has had a LS1* LS6 *LS2*LS3* LS7 *LS9 .....While Ford has been 4.6L - 5.4L for quite awhile. The 5.o is a much needed change .
02-10-2012, 10:20 AM
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It would seem the other way around to me..(IE) Camaro V-6 was first rated @ 304 -312 -and now 323 hp ..The Mustang has stayed constant @ 305. The GT500 had a increase due to improvements with the block etc. The Mustang GT had to increase to compete andthe 4.6 Liter was well overdue for a change. GM has had a LS1* LS6 *LS2*LS3* LS7 *LS9 .....While Ford has been 4.6L - 5.4L for quite awhile. The 5.o is a much needed change .
Im not saying they didnt need the 5.0, Im just saying that every time Chevy released news about the camaro, Ford 1uped them within a week with what I said earlier. Just like when GM told Ford fans "youre welcome for the new gt500 because of the zl1 camaro". Ford was very quick to reply and say the gt500 wasnt made to compete with the zl1, but it self.
Just like the zl1 can hit 184mph....then ford comes out and says "oh yeah, well the gt500 can hit 200mph" Ford has no poker face, when they have 1uping news, they release it asap. Thats why I think it didnt beat the Camaro around the ring. Even if it was only 1 second, Ford would be touting it all over the place.