LS1LT1

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In 2012 the Track Pack includes the 3.73 gears (to replace the standard 3.55s), right?

But for 2013 I'm assuming that the package no longer includes any optional gears, just the standard 3.31s and that's it?

demarco313

Sorry not sure why it didn't work in this post. The same link still works in post #82 which is where I originally posted it. Here it is again.

http://stangsunited.com/showthread.p...the-2013-GT500

demarco313

That is correct. On the 2012 the track package includes the 3.73 gears which replaced the 3.55s.

Yes I don't think it's an option as of right now but ford fans have been complaining about that so maybe they may add that eventually as part of the package. Not everybody cares about going even close to 200mph. Most ppl will give up top speed for better acceleration. The 3.31s are a benefit in certain ways though especially since it allows the Shelby to complete the 1/4 mile in 3rd gear. 1 less shift I'm sure with the 3.73s they wouldn't have been able to avoid the gas guzzler tax also.

gocartone

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Didn't they change all the gear ratios, besides 4th? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought it was all new gears in this car, so you won't be able to compare a 2012 to a 2013 with different rear gears. Either way, rear gears on a car like this aren't going to make much of a difference. Changing gears in a car that makes 500ft/lbs at 2000rpms is nothing like doing it in a higher revving N/A car. And when we are talking about a 120hp difference between the '12 and '13, it's laughable at best to think the gears are going to make it a close race.

Irunelevens

I'm gonna guess they're gonna offer something steeper at some point for people that are more focused on road course racing.

demarco313

Yes you're correct. Here is a quote from the link I posted:

For the first time the Shelby GT500 will utilize a 2.66 close ratio first gear thus eliminating the dreaded “nose dive” from 1-2 shift and will get the GT500 to about 62 mph at 7000 rpm . In fact every gear besides fourth was optimized

LS1LT1

iTrader: (16)

True, but let's not dismiss/overlook the importance of gearing for good acceleration...
2012 with 3.73s (optional) and a 2.97 1st gear.
2013 with 3.31s and now a 2.66 1st gear.
Yes, that extra 100-120hp is still more than enough to erase that gearing loss (and then some), but it's not as if one can look at the 2012 GT500 and just say "cool, the 2013s are going to be a full '100-120hp quicker' in the 1/4 mile" because it could be a little deceiving.
In other words, it gains lots of acceleration power over the 2012 but gives some of that acceleration back in gearing.
This is assuming both cars having the exact same rear tires as well.
And then there's the new traction/launch control system to factor in as well.

gocartone

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Honestly though, how much does that really matter when we are talking a 670hp 600ft/lb car? I have a feeling with all the new stuff in the car it's going to be more than 100-120hp quicker in the 1/4 mile.

7998

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I read somewhere the reason for the gear reductions was to improve traction.
3.73's + 2.97 1st gear was worthless. The '13 make the '12 peak torque at 2000 rpm.

LS1LT1

iTrader: (16)

Agreed, the car is going to be an animal either way.

Johnnystock

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I kinda feel stupid to mod my car now seeing how nicely 'modded' the ZL1 and Shelby will be right from factory I've got more than 50K total invested for my car...damn!

I want one of those car badly!!

1ltcap

i went playing on fords website last night. according to that, with the track pack, and i think i opted the nav package into it.......58k.

1ltcap

there were no optional gears showing when i went playing.

1ltcap

what they're trying to do, is to limit....or control the torque to the ground. that extra 100-150hp, combined with the torque hitting 500 at only 2k rpm would simply convert the tires to a white misty stuff.

gocartone

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You mean the performance pack, still nothing about a track pack with all the extra coolers on their website.

It'llrun

I "built" my own tonight... $68,720. Of course, I chose the 'vert with the performance package(still doesn't show any gear change and, why would it, for a PALTRY $3,495.00!), navigation(part of $2340.00 electronics package, I guess), Shaker Pro stereo(another $1295.00), Recaro leather seats and my ONLY gripe is, I couldn't find a way to delete those damned ugly "HERE I AM, HERE I AM!" racing stripes!

Cool car and I think I'm surprised Ford's allowing "orders" so soon. The funny thing I noticed in the end is, when I went looking for a match, it showed me a $45,465.00 2013 Mustang Boss 302. That's all good, but c'mon... looking for a 2013 GT500?? Who's "settling" for a Boss 302??? Not me.

King Nothing

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i was going to say they think their 5th gens are God's gift.

King Nothing

iTrader: (9)

Really? what does that get you?

gocartone

iTrader: (4)

A blown engine...ha! What's the power limit on the LSAs? I doubt they would handle 700whp without a built engine, but I haven't read anything on the CTS-V pushing the block to its limit, so I really don't know.

1ltcap

hhmm....just caught that. if i were ordering one, i'd sure as hell be checking to see that i was getting those......