ZL1 in big trouble? Q&A with SVT Chief Engineer today...
03-18-2012 | 10:39 PM
#121
I still don't get why people are making a big deal about the ZL1 & GT500.... The 2012 GT500 was used as a benchmark for the ZL1. Ford responded with the 2013 GT500 once the ZL1 specs were released.. So that just means GM will respond to the 2013 GT500 with a faster ZL1 & I think they will also up the hp in the C7 ZR1
03-18-2012 | 11:45 PM
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I still don't get why people are making a big deal about the ZL1 & GT500.... The 2012 GT500 was used as a benchmark for the ZL1. Ford responded with the 2013 GT500 once the ZL1 specs were released.. So that just means GM will respond to the 2013 GT500 with a faster ZL1 & I think they will also up the hp in the C7 ZR1
Plus, the ZR1 is already incredibly hard for most to handle with all that power. Set it for KILL and it just may! I expect GM to sit back this year and see just what happens with the newest GT500. For all we know, Ford won't have traction worked out at all and the car will be a mess in general. Having a 100+hp advantage over the ZL1 is huge, but if traction limits the exercise, it becomes futile. Bragging rights for the fastest pony car aren't a great big deal from my house. This I know.
Oh, and by the way... Some people, particularly die hard Chevy fans, are "concerned" about the ZL1 vs GT500 for 1 obvious reason. You hit on it above, but probably got that wrong insofar as "lately" is concerned. Fact is, until the ZL1 we're about to learn so much more about, GM hasn't offered a pony car capable of running with the 2007+GT500(Cobra), let alone a newer GT500... ever. So it's not so certain to all of us that it just means GM will respond. It took them nearly 10yrs to respond to the 2003 Cobra.
03-19-2012 | 08:15 AM
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I "built" my own tonight... $68,720. Of course, I chose the 'vert with the performance package(still doesn't show any gear change and, why would it, for a PALTRY $3,495.00!), navigation(part of $2340.00 electronics package, I guess), Shaker Pro stereo(another $1295.00), Recaro leather seats and my ONLY gripe is, I couldn't find a way to delete those damned ugly "HERE I AM, HERE I AM!" racing stripes!
Cool car and I think I'm surprised Ford's allowing "orders" so soon. The funny thing I noticed in the end is, when I went looking for a match, it showed me a $45,465.00 2013 Mustang Boss 302. That's all good, but c'mon... looking for a 2013 GT500?? Who's "settling" for a Boss 302??? Not me.
Cool car and I think I'm surprised Ford's allowing "orders" so soon. The funny thing I noticed in the end is, when I went looking for a match, it showed me a $45,465.00 2013 Mustang Boss 302. That's all good, but c'mon... looking for a 2013 GT500?? Who's "settling" for a Boss 302??? Not me.
mine is black/black leather, 6 speed manual, comfort group, 3.73, brembos, premium. that's all i wanted.
i'd go through, click to find matches, and i'd find everything from a 6 cylinder convettible to a gt500/
03-19-2012 | 09:40 AM
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03-20-2012 | 12:15 PM
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Well, Lingenfelter does 710hp packages on the CTS-V with ported heads and upper and lower pulleys, nothing done to the bottom end. And they come with a warranty.
03-21-2012 | 04:09 PM
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They may not need to have more power in the C7. If they can make other changes, like weight, traction, available rpm... I'd think those are more in line with their goals because, let's face it, anything over 600hp is just about as close to insane as needed. Plus, the ZR1 is already incredibly hard for most to handle with all that power. Set it for KILL and it just may!
I expect GM to sit back this year and see just what happens with the newest GT500. For all we know, Ford won't have traction worked out at all and the car will be a mess in general. Having a 100+hp advantage over the ZL1 is huge, but if traction limits the exercise, it becomes futile. Bragging rights for the fastest pony car aren't a great big deal from my house. This I know.
Oh, and by the way... Some people, particularly die hard Chevy fans, are "concerned" about the ZL1 vs GT500 for 1 obvious reason. You hit on it above, but probably got that wrong insofar as "lately" is concerned. Fact is, until the ZL1 we're about to learn so much more about, GM hasn't offered a pony car capable of running with the 2007+GT500(Cobra), let alone a newer GT500... ever. So it's not so certain to all of us that it just means GM will respond. It took them nearly 10yrs to respond to the 2003 Cobra.
Plus, the ZR1 is already incredibly hard for most to handle with all that power. Set it for KILL and it just may! I expect GM to sit back this year and see just what happens with the newest GT500. For all we know, Ford won't have traction worked out at all and the car will be a mess in general. Having a 100+hp advantage over the ZL1 is huge, but if traction limits the exercise, it becomes futile. Bragging rights for the fastest pony car aren't a great big deal from my house. This I know.
Oh, and by the way... Some people, particularly die hard Chevy fans, are "concerned" about the ZL1 vs GT500 for 1 obvious reason. You hit on it above, but probably got that wrong insofar as "lately" is concerned. Fact is, until the ZL1 we're about to learn so much more about, GM hasn't offered a pony car capable of running with the 2007+GT500(Cobra), let alone a newer GT500... ever. So it's not so certain to all of us that it just means GM will respond. It took them nearly 10yrs to respond to the 2003 Cobra.
