Z Fury

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Base ZL1 is $54K. A well optioned GT500 (as tested) is $63K.

For better comparison, go slap some options on the ZL1 and compare apples to apples. GT500 is pricier, but not by $10K.

TriShield

The ZL1 doesn't have any big bang performance options like the GT500 does, other than $500 suede for the inside. All ZL1s come standard with the latest magentic track suspension, appropriate brakes, etc.

I just built a GT500 with the SVT Track Package and Recaro seats and it is 63,080. I left the nav, big woofer and other junk off of it.

It's still a premium over the ZL1, almost an entire Nissan Versa's worth of money over the ZL1.

gocartone

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Ummm...What kind of math are you using? $63k-56.5K(delivery+gas guzzler tax)=$6.5k...A Versa has a base price of $15k, so the price difference is less than half a Versa.

TransAmWS.6

At this point, it seems like the GT500 is definitely much more car than the ZL1. I feel like the extra cost is well worth it. I can't even think of any single good reason as to why one would choose a ZL1 over the GT500, unless they just like the way the Camaro looks, wanted to save money, or they are just extremely biased to Chevrolet.

DoggyB22

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Mustang GT500
- Base is $54,200
- Shipping cost is $795 to the Bay Area, Ca

- $62,595 for a fully optioned GT500 without the "SVT Packages"
- $66,095 for a fully optioned GT500 with the "SVT Performance Package"
- $69,085 for a fully optioned GT500 with the "SVT Performance & Track Package"


Camaro ZL1
- Base is $54,096
- Shipping cost is $900 to the Bay Area, Ca

- $60,800 for a fully optioned auto ZL1.
- $58,315 for a fully optioned standard 6 speed ZL1
- Plus $470 if you want black/grey roof & rear deck lid stripe
- Plus $600 for the hood insert/exposed carbon fiber. Can't have both the stripe & exposed carbon fiber





IMO id buy the ZL1.... Is the fully optioned GT500 really worth $8-$10k more then the fully optioned ZL1?!?! When Livernois Motorsports did 9s with their level 3 package which cost $10k... Again this is JUST my opinion if I had the cash. Of course you can spend a lot less on a car & go faster then both these cars but I'm just saying. $8-10k more is a lot though for comparison

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...ance-Packages/

MI-Z/28

Both cars are extremely badass. If money was not an object I could flip a coin and be happy with a GT500 or ZL1. Neither would stay stock for long anyways.

So how long until Dodge offers a 1.9L or 2.3L TVS blower on the 392 Chally or Charger SRT8 models?

ramair 1

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Ford can make a mustang with 1000 hp and sell it for half what a comparable gm goes for and i aint switchn brands! I have owned both and ill allways be a gm man.

Irunelevens

This is one of those times when we really need this smilie...had to get it from another forum.

chaman

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Good choice of smilie....

DoggyB22

iTrader: (2)

Now I don't know about 1000 hp/being half & all that mumbo jumbo... But I mean its his opinion on which car he likes. He obviously is a GM guy & would rather buy a GM car over a Ford. If Ford sold a 1000 hp Mustang out of the factory for less or the same price as a Camaro Id buy the Mustang lol... But that will/would never happen

Irunelevens

He has the right to his opinion, and we all have the right to tell him how ridiculous it is

jmurray87

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Meh, hand me a C6Z06 over both of these cars. But if I had only 50-60k and wanted a brand new car It would be a toss up between these 2 cars both are fantastic even if the GT500 is quicker the ZL1 is a sexy beast as well. I am more curious to see how GM will respond with the C7Z06 since the new GT500 is basically close or in the range of a stock C6Z06 but granted one can argue that they are 2 different cars in 2 different classes.

Also, I wouldn't mind knowing if these GT500s being tested are base models or models with the SVT Performance & Track Upgrade packages? I see them listed as options these packages curious to know what additions and changes are a part of them.

Not like it matters I can't afford either or a Z06...

-Ross-

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SVT Performance Package: $3,495
TORSEN® differential with 3.31 axle ratio; 19" x 9.5" front and 20" x 9.5" rear "Tarnish" painted aluminum forged wheels; Upgraded springs and stabilizer bars; Unique gear shift ****; SVT engineered Bilstein cockpit-selectable dampers; Rear spoiler with Gurney Flap

SVT Track Pack: $2,995
External engine oil cooler; Transmission cooler with pump; Differential cooler with pump

Electronics Package: $2,340
Voice activated navigation system with an in-dash screen and single DVD/CD/MP3 player with DVD audio and video capability, HD radio, an internal hard disk drive for map, and point of interest (POI) storage and 10 gigabyte Music Jukebox, dual zone automatic temperature control, integrated SIRIUS® Travel Link that provides such information as real-time traffic and current local gas prices. (6-month SIRIUS® Travel Link service included

1ltcap

i think you optioned the glass roof, and nav into the shelby. i just set one up how i'd order it, with the racing packages, and it's 62k.
that said, my gt was 38.9k on fords website as optioned, but cost me less than 34k to take delivery of it. i would imagine it's the same for the shelby, although i could be wrong.

and yes, the extra money would be well worth it, because although they're BOTH badass cars, i do feel that the shelby has accomplished much more than the camaro in this case. plus it's better looking.

i still don't like that ford's charging extra for the extra racing stuff, but in the long run, it's gonna be a smart move on their part.

TriShield

https://ls1tech.com/forums/automotiv...ang-gt500.html

"The price is within spitting distance of a base Cadillac CTS-V Coupe and nearly a Nissan Versa more expensive than a base Chevrolet Camaro ZL1. The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 starts at $54,200, though the SVT Performance Package with its specific spring rates, adjustable Bilstein dampers and Torsen limited slip rear will set you back another $3,495. Want the extra cooling capacity found in the Track Package? Get ready to pony up an extra $2,995. Likewise, our excellent Recaro buckets are a $1,595 option, which brings our grand total to $63,080, including a $795 destination fee. That's not even including fanciness like a Shaker Pro audio system or voice-activated navigation."

-Ross-

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ZL1 (52,729):

14city/19hwy
580hp/556lb-ft

Interior Sueded Microfiber Package - $464 (GT500 comes with this standard)
20" x 10.0" Front and 20" x 11.0" Rear Bright 5-spoke Forged Aluminum Wheels - $437 (wheels are part of the SVT Performance Package)
Destination Fee - $900
Gas Guzzler Tax - $1,300

Total - $57,192



GT500 (54,200):

15city/24hwy
662hp/631lb-ft

SVT Peformance Package - $3,495
SVT Track Pack - $2,995

Total - $63,833


Price difference:
$6,641

So for the $6,641, you get a warrantied fully forged engine producing 82 additional horsepower, 75 lb-ft more torque and 5 more mpg on the highway that will put a few cars on the ZL1 in the 1/4 mile and (I'm speculating here) probably stay right with it on a road course.

I think the extra money is worth it.

Sure, you can throw a few grand at a new ZL1 and make it as quick as the 13 GT500, but say bye to the warranty.

gocartone

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Maybe you should check numbers before quoting something someone else wrote; $6500 is not nearly $15k in anyone's book.

SSCamaro99_3

iTrader: (1)

Standard wheel are the same size an material, just black painted. The $437 is for the finish change.

Should not a top of the line model come with all performance options standard, unlike the Z06?

88blackgt

No, no it shouldn't. I don't need a big speaker system, navigation, heated seats, back up camera, etc in my 662 hp car. I'd rather have the option to make it the way I want. You want it check the box.

I realize you said performance options but it still applies. A drag car isn't likely to need all the additional coolers or maybe I already plan on putting new suspension or wheels on? Why pay a ridiculous amount for what I don't want is my question to you. Options make everyone happy.

texas94z

I just want to see the '13 GT500's 'Ring time.