Muscle Car Wars Circa 1985
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His lowering springs didn't help much though LOL.
His was white (light grey lower half) with a white top/white interior too so when the Vanilla Ice video hit the scene within three years of my friend getting his it was quite humorous to us.
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Now, my '89 LX 5.0 convertible that I'd bought used in 1994 was not quite as 'tight' as my friend's GT was, even after I welded in the subframe connectors.
And yes, I found the Vanilla Ice CD in the discount bins for only $1.99 during that period, bought it and did in fact play it while driving in my (blue with white top/white interior) 5.0 with the ragtop down so my hair could blow LOL.
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The car is long gone (had two more Mustang 'verts (SN95s) after it though) but I still have the CD.
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Yea.....cause no one ever has to stop or turn
. So you agree that the carb'ed mustang was faster than the later fuel injected ones that everyone just raves about.
I don't think so. It would take better than perfect conditions for a 5.0 fi'ed notch to run a 14.3.....think about it.
Also the IROC ran a 14.7(definitely possible), I guess the carbed 305 t/a ran a 14.5 (which I don't think would happen either) because it beat the IROC and then got beat by the Mustang.
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I don't think so. It would take better than perfect conditions for a 5.0 fi'ed notch to run a 14.3.....think about it.
Also the IROC ran a 14.7(definitely possible), I guess the carbed 305 t/a ran a 14.5 (which I don't think would happen either) because it beat the IROC and then got beat by the Mustang.
Go back and watch the video again... I-ROC... 14.8, T/A... 14.7 @ 89... Mustang GT, 14.3 @ 92. It is what it is, period.
Btw, there were many who posted 14.2's from the 87-93 5L. Maybe it'll make you feel better to hear that Motorweek managed to get a 14.5 @ 95 from the 87 350ci automatic I-ROC.
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If I knew then what I know now, I could certainly cut another 3/10ths (or more) off of each of my car's bests from back then.
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You go to great lengths to defame the Mustang. It's funny too, as we watch a video we're all laughing with and then YOU come along and do your best to trash the car that won the drag race because... Well, because what you think your dads car did... You're making this even funnier!
Go back and watch the video again... I-ROC... 14.8, T/A... 14.7 @ 89... Mustang GT, 14.3 @ 92. It is what it is, period.
Btw, there were many who posted 14.2's from the 87-93 5L. Maybe it'll make you feel better to hear that Motorweek managed to get a 14.5 @ 95 from the 87 350ci automatic I-ROC.
Go back and watch the video again... I-ROC... 14.8, T/A... 14.7 @ 89... Mustang GT, 14.3 @ 92. It is what it is, period.
Btw, there were many who posted 14.2's from the 87-93 5L. Maybe it'll make you feel better to hear that Motorweek managed to get a 14.5 @ 95 from the 87 350ci automatic I-ROC.
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I had only gotten a best of 14.8 out of my IROC Z28 350 (it had K&N filters, a cooler t-stat and slightly bumped timing too) and only 14.5@92mph out of my automatic LX 5.0 (similarly modded with removed intake silencer, K&N filter, t-stat and timing) but admittedly, I didn't know much about extracting the absolute most out of a car back then (1990 - 1994) either.
If I knew then what I know now, I could certainly cut another 3/10ths (or more) off of each of my car's bests from back then.
If I knew then what I know now, I could certainly cut another 3/10ths (or more) off of each of my car's bests from back then.
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I remember those days. It was actually fun. You have to remember the OEM's were finally starting to get their act together when it came to performance and emissions, but it really heated up in 85 with the 5.0 carb Mustang GT and the TPI motor was introduced the same year as well. I owned a then new 85 Z28 with TPI and my friend had a 85 GT, both were much faster than previous year versions. I routinely beat him and other 5.0's and 5.7 TPI cars without a problem. The key was manually shifting the auto. For whatever reason it was just faster than leaving it in D.
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WOW I must be old. I can remember watching that show when it was on TV. I owned a new L69 Iroc 5 speed and A new 85 GT. The Iroc would turn and handle much better but my Mustang was faster. My Mustang went 14.3 and my friends went 14.5 but they were aesy to get into the 13s. Keep in mind that 13s was quick back then.
Overall I liked driving the Iroc better but had allot more fun in the Mustang and ended up running high tens in it back in 89. That was very fast for anything back then. Just to give an Idea of what average guys ran back then my friends 305 iroc ran 14.6 bone stock,Another friend with A GT went 14.1 just removing the filter, Another one ran 14.4 in his 85 Vette. I also owned a new 82 GT and it ran 15.2.
Keep in mind that when these cars came out we thought they were incredible. We couldn't believe how nice and quiet they were to ride in![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
Today I still own 4 low mile all original 85GTs and one 85 Capri RS. Some day these cars will be worth a little money,,,,,,,,I hope.lol
Overall I liked driving the Iroc better but had allot more fun in the Mustang and ended up running high tens in it back in 89. That was very fast for anything back then. Just to give an Idea of what average guys ran back then my friends 305 iroc ran 14.6 bone stock,Another friend with A GT went 14.1 just removing the filter, Another one ran 14.4 in his 85 Vette. I also owned a new 82 GT and it ran 15.2.
Keep in mind that when these cars came out we thought they were incredible. We couldn't believe how nice and quiet they were to ride in
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Today I still own 4 low mile all original 85GTs and one 85 Capri RS. Some day these cars will be worth a little money,,,,,,,,I hope.lol
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I had only gotten a best of 14.8 out of my IROC Z28 350 (it had K&N filters, a cooler t-stat and slightly bumped timing too) and only 14.5@92mph out of my automatic LX 5.0 (similarly modded with removed intake silencer, K&N filter, t-stat and timing) but admittedly, I didn't know much about extracting the absolute most out of a car back then (1990 - 1994) either.
If I knew then what I know now, I could certainly cut another 3/10ths (or more) off of each of my car's bests from back then.
If I knew then what I know now, I could certainly cut another 3/10ths (or more) off of each of my car's bests from back then.
A simple set of 16" wheels/tires on the Mustang would've made a massively preferential difference(I know because I tested with 15 and 16" setups), but that's not how the car was offered at that time... Oh well. As I said before, it is what it is.
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I don't think it was a matter of having two tuned port cars, but having two different transmission choices. You wouldn't see the Corvette's L98 350 offered until 1987 in F-cars, though it made it's debut in Corvettes for the 1985 model year, the tuned port variant in F-cars was cube limited to 305 inches for 1985 buyers. So with that said, the two top V8s in 1985 F-bodies were both 305 cubic inch, one being fuel injected, the 210HP LB9 305 Tuned Port, and one carb'd, 190HP L69 305 4bbl. Yes, before any one says any thing, there was an LG4 305, but that wasn't in the video. The LB9 305 TPI for 1985 and 1986 model years was only mated to an automatic, and that automatic would be the only transmission choice until the 1987 model year when a 5 speed manual would then became available in LB9 optioned cars. So to get the manual in 1985 or 1986, you had to have the L69 305, evidently the manual was the only transmission offered with the L69 305.
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I don't think it was a matter of having two tuned port cars, but having two different transmission choices. You wouldn't see the Corvette's L98 350 offered until 1987 in F-cars, though it made it's debut in Corvettes for the 1985 model year, the tuned port variant in F-cars was cube limited to 305 inches for 1985 buyers. So with that said, the two top V8s in 1985 F-bodies were both 305 cubic inch, one being fuel injected, the 210HP LB9 305 Tuned Port, and one carb'd, 190HP L69 305 4bbl. Yes, before any one says any thing, there was an LG4 305, but that wasn't in the video. The LB9 305 TPI for 1985 and 1986 model years was only mated to an automatic, and that automatic would be the only transmission choice until the 1987 model year when a 5 speed manual would then became available in LB9 optioned cars. So to get the manual in 1985 or 1986, you had to have the L69 305, evidently the manual was the only transmission offered with the L69 305.
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Nah, it was a somewhat glorious time otherwise and as others have said, the cars were only slow when compared to what we have now, we thought we were doin' ok at the time LOL. ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
And living through that only makes us appreciate what we have now all the more.
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And living through that only makes us appreciate what we have now all the more.
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Thanks for the video. They seem faster than I remember. My first new car was a 1983 z28 with a H.O. 305. A whopping 190 hp. Had a few others then I bought a new 1988 IROC Z w/ the 350, rated at 230 hp. It would run 14.9 at 93 mph stock and I thought that was really fast at the time. This was also the first car I ever raced. Did a couple bolt ons and it ran low 14s. At that time all the so called super cars were lucky to break in the 13s.
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Thanks for the video. They seem faster than I remember. My first new car was a 1983 z28 with a H.O. 305. A whopping 190 hp. Had a few others then I bought a new 1988 IROC Z w/ the 350, rated at 230 hp. It would run 14.9 at 93 mph stock and I thought that was really fast at the time. This was also the first car I ever raced. Did a couple bolt ons and it ran low 14s. At that time all the so called super cars were lucky to break in the 13s.
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I don't remember ever seeing a carb'ed stock mustang in that era run a 14. The ones I was in/around I remember being turdy before FI came for them. Fox body's handled awful......what a heap of **** in the turns.....lol That thing was everywhere.
Dad has a pristine 85 IROC TPI car that he bought with only 2,000 miles and has only about 25k on it now. He never would take it to the track but it had no problems with the Mustangs of that era. It ran really good for then.
Dad has a pristine 85 IROC TPI car that he bought with only 2,000 miles and has only about 25k on it now. He never would take it to the track but it had no problems with the Mustangs of that era. It ran really good for then.
Thanks for the video. They seem faster than I remember. My first new car was a 1983 z28 with a H.O. 305. A whopping 190 hp. Had a few others then I bought a new 1988 IROC Z w/ the 350, rated at 230 hp. It would run 14.9 at 93 mph stock and I thought that was really fast at the time. This was also the first car I ever raced. Did a couple bolt ons and it ran low 14s. At that time all the so called super cars were lucky to break in the 13s.
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