Revealed - All-New 2015 Chevrolet Colorado
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I looked all over for the tow capacity, which GM simply hasn't got on their website about the Colorado. That said, I've read that the max rating is 7k and, like you, I've read that more is expected w/ the diesel.
The 3.6L may be the limiting factor, but w/ all the torque and power it makes, it seems unlikely. Any diesel they may add will be better for towing in general, so if their suspension, etc. is ready for more weight, GREAT!
Due to engine weight and position, I suspect the diesel would feel more comfortable, but it's also bound to be and therefore, feel, smoother in contrast to any gas engine struggling along. That said, I don't see GM allowing any Colorado diesel or otherwise, to even get close to full size tow capacity... it's like making the Camaro quicker than the Corvette and selling for less. Dat dont make no sense.![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Also, I definitely agree that any serious buyer is going to consider a full size for the same price against the diesel w/ less power and less tow capacity. Am I wrong to think the full size w/ a hitch has a 7k plus tow capacity automatically?
The 3.6L may be the limiting factor, but w/ all the torque and power it makes, it seems unlikely. Any diesel they may add will be better for towing in general, so if their suspension, etc. is ready for more weight, GREAT!
Due to engine weight and position, I suspect the diesel would feel more comfortable, but it's also bound to be and therefore, feel, smoother in contrast to any gas engine struggling along. That said, I don't see GM allowing any Colorado diesel or otherwise, to even get close to full size tow capacity... it's like making the Camaro quicker than the Corvette and selling for less. Dat dont make no sense.
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Also, I definitely agree that any serious buyer is going to consider a full size for the same price against the diesel w/ less power and less tow capacity. Am I wrong to think the full size w/ a hitch has a 7k plus tow capacity automatically?
The HP and TQ in the 3.6 is deceiving. I recently bought my wife a '15 Equinox with the 3.6, and I drove a new Colorado with the 3.6, and I am not impressed with that engine. Once it is up and moving the vehicles seem to do fine, but from a stop they are absolute dogs until about 15-20 miles per hour. The big reason why people wanted the 4.3 over this 3.6 was for low-end torque. GM said the 3.6 would be fine. In my personal opinion, they are wrong. I've yet to drive a 4.3 Silverado, but I can't imagine it being slower off the line than the 3.6 Colorado is. That's the main reason I was wanting the diesel.
As far as max tow ratings on the Colorado vs. the Silverado, I can't imagine any scenario where the new Colorado's tow rating exceeds 7K. Ever. I can't remember what the base tow rating on the Silverado is (with the 3.08 gears and no tow package), but I'd imagine it would be close (if not better) than a max rating on a Colorado. That said, 7K is still a lot of weight, so a diesel Colorado may be enough for a lot of people's towing needs, while filling that niche of being easier to manage in the bigger cities. There's just no scenario where I'd consider a 3.6 Colorado over even a 4.3 Silverado, even though I would like the smaller size. In my opinion for my personal needs, it would be stupid, and I honestly would hate living with the 3.6 for anything besides daily driving duties.
Hmmm. A diesel mid size truck or a full size v8 thats not cramped. Let me think about this for about two seconds. Yup. Silverado. I honestly only see a market for lesser optioned Colorados. A well equipped one just doesn't make much sense for most people. I will be very surprised if there are many people that opt for a diesel.
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Hmmm. A diesel mid size truck or a full size v8 thats not cramped. Let me think about this for about two seconds. Yup. Silverado. I honestly only see a market for lesser optioned Colorados. A well equipped one just doesn't make much sense for most people. I will be very surprised if there are many people that opt for a diesel.
When you look closely, they're not much smaller than a full size.
Now that I've gone over that, I still chose a full size myself, but that wa about PRICING rather than fun factors. I'm not spending 37k plus for a mid-size pickup, but that's me.
I looked at a dealer site and there, I found 7k as the max towing.
The HP and TQ in the 3.6 is deceiving. I recently bought my wife a '15 Equinox with the 3.6, and I drove a new Colorado with the 3.6, and I am not impressed with that engine. Once it is up and moving the vehicles seem to do fine, but from a stop they are absolute dogs until about 15-20 miles per hour.
The big reason why people wanted the 4.3 over this 3.6 was for low-end torque. GM said the 3.6 would be fine. In my personal opinion, they are wrong. I've yet to drive a 4.3 Silverado, but I can't imagine it being slower off the line than the 3.6 Colorado is. That's the main reason I was wanting the diesel.
As far as max tow ratings on the Colorado vs. the Silverado, I can't imagine any scenario where the new Colorado's tow rating exceeds 7K. Ever. I can't remember what the base tow rating on the Silverado is (with the 3.08 gears and no tow package), but I'd imagine it would be close (if not better) than a max rating on a Colorado.
That said, 7K is still a lot of weight, so a diesel Colorado may be enough for a lot of people's towing needs, while filling that niche of being easier to manage in the bigger cities. There's just no scenario where I'd consider a 3.6 Colorado over even a 4.3 Silverado, even though I would like the smaller size. In my opinion for my personal needs, it would be stupid, and I honestly would hate living with the 3.6 for anything besides daily driving duties.
That said, I'm using a 4X4 and I don't think a 4X4 Colorado would handle that load worth crap. My tow rating is 7,350... and w/ a load leveler, that would be EASY... I didn't have one! I had to shift that load just to add front wheel traction. I loaded from a driveway onto my trailer, but my truck was on a dirt road... I nailed the brakes from only about 5mph and SLID... that was funny, but that's all the clue I need. For stuff like that... Silverado, F150, RAM1500... Titan, Tundra... something I trust.
The market is there, but probably not a big market. Mainly off-road enthusiasts and people that live in the bigger cities (who want a smaller, yet still capable truck), but the market is there. I can honestly say I was 100% set on getting an All-Terrain Canyon CCRB 4x4 with the diesel engine, but "life happened" and my priorities have changed. That and apparently GM won't be offering the diesel in the Canyon. So yeah...
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My only wish is that Chevy dealer employees would've given me more reason to buy a GM. In 2013, they were largely just plain moronic and this year, the same. I knew more about them than they did ... but... I'd have likely bought a 2015 1500 4X4 LT if... if... only I didn't have an idiot introduce himself and tell me "all about" the 1500(and every other GM) in ways I'd never want to hear. It was sad.
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I can't wait for the next round of the Frontier and Tacoma. I absolutely loved my '05 Frontier (first year of the current design), but it is definitely in need of a complete redesign.
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The colorado is so dumb, just get a fullsize truck. Make an s10 sized truck again and actually have a size difference for a small truck not this mid size bullshit. I want a light duty truck that can get 30+mpg, haul some lumber, or a fridge or whetever occasionaly but also be a sporty regular cab with a manual that i can drive everyday and be able to go and fit around town like a small car. Why is that sooo hard to make happen?
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The colorado is so dumb, just get a fullsize truck. Make an s10 sized truck again and actually have a size difference for a small truck not this mid size bullshit. I want a light duty truck that can get 30+mpg, haul some lumber, or a fridge or whetever occasionaly but also be a sporty regular cab with a manual that i can drive everyday and be able to go and fit around town like a small car. Why is that sooo hard to make happen?
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I needed to trade in my 2012 GMC Sierra extended cab on a crew cab as I have a new baby on the way and needed room for two car seats. The Colorado/Canyon was the frontrunner until I went to look at them in person. On paper, it seems the back seat of the crew cab is quite large. But, in person, I'm not sure if it was any bigger than the backseat of my extended cab Sierra. After seeing that, I marked it off the list and ended up with a 2014 Silverado crew cab with the standard box and I'm very happy with my decision.
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The colorado is so dumb, just get a fullsize truck. Make an s10 sized truck again and actually have a size difference for a small truck not this mid size bullshit. I want a light duty truck that can get 30+mpg, haul some lumber, or a fridge or whetever occasionaly but also be a sporty regular cab with a manual that i can drive everyday and be able to go and fit around town like a small car. Why is that sooo hard to make happen?
30mpg in a pickup... may as well toss in a diesel when you get that old S10.
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I'd think that was a fine decision. The only reason I passed on that is the made in Mexico part. Don't hate that, just want American.