Im still not going to believe it till I see it. Not saying thats its not coming. But once they make one then Ill believe it..

 

http://members.***.net/xunil76/newchallenger01.jpg

if ya havent seen the challenger ..here it is

 

I believe that's a photoshop from a magazine. They would have to call that a Cuda.

 

well what ever you want to call it it still looks sweet

 

That's how I remember it.

 

a-men brother. a-men.

 

No 'bird, no bux from Boba..

 

It will be more than 400HP..Right now the 6.1 Hemi is 425 and GM WONT get caught with there pants down again.I think we'll see a 6.3 to 6.6 LSx based engine producing 450 in the 5th Gen F-Car..

 

actually the few 6.1s that have been dynoed are showing 450-470 at the flywheel........

they need to make the new car light weight, and by then i'm sure a new ls or beyond engine will be available......i can't imagine a mass produced muscle car will see much more hp than what we are seeing right now from the factory.....

 

I agree, Muscle Car = Horsepower.

Lighter is better, but HP is cheaper than losing weight to gain performance.

The way horsepower is going these days the top engine offered could be 500 hp no problem. Think LS7.
It won't be such a big deal by 2009/2010.
The only way this could be derailed is by higher fuel prices and or some type of HP limit laws imposed by the Fed. Gov.
(Higher insurance will only limit the # of buyers)

My .02

 

I looked up what PHR quoted Bob as saying. Here it tis:


Quote from PHR:
"GM's product boss Bob Lutz says, "Firebird's day is gone." Nevertheless, look for Lutz to endow Pontiac with performance models such as GTO and Solstice in the coming years. The coming Zeta platform which will underpin future Camaros will also be the basis for the GTO."




IMHO that Suck *** Big Time!

I would much rather see the Firebird again than an Ill-gotten GTO.

But, I am grateful the Camaro is coming.

 

SWEET FANCY MOSES! They finally came to their senses!


-Mike

 

Just like the old days when the 64 stang came out the others were a few years behind, well today we have a new mustang and a few years later we will have 2 muscle cars from the other big two.

 

I still won't believe it until I see it... or some sort of confirmation from the General.

 

I hate GM dealerships. They will cost an arm and a leg to get one and they will guard them like they're plated in gold...... It'll problably cost close to the equivalent of what a Corvette costs today, and I bet there will be some sort of gas price or environmental reason to limit horsepower in 2010 so the car wont have have the ***** of today's LS1. It'll be a repeat of the 1984 redesign. F#ck GM!

 

We all have high hopes but I'm not going to believe a thing until I can go buy one. With my luck they will probably be set for release and some tree hugger will complain and they will have to stop production so they can sell little 4 bangers. Damn treehuggers

Excuse the language, I'm pissed off because my car was almost destroyed by a teenage girl earlier today.

 

09-10? Please. Dont debut the damn car in 06, and make us wait 3-4 years. They'll of had 4 years already to bring this back, so another 4 doesnt sound like great customer appreciation in my book.

By then there would be enough people pissed off watchin GT500 owners run 10s w/ tune, boost, tires and exhaust that they wont care what this new Camaro does. 09-10...im not waiting quite that long.

 

i'll believe it when i see it. i have a feeling though that if we do see it, it's gonna either be a nostalgia design like the mustang, or a HUGE disappointment like the GTO. and what the hell is with them pairing it with the GTO anyways? waiting until 09 is bullshit.

 

The reason why they won't bring back the Firebird is because of the GTO.

 

What you don't understand is they HAD to cancel it. Killing the f-body for a few years was the only way they could get out of the St. Teresa contract. Politics killed the f-body, but don't worry, it will be back.