jdustu

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the end of your statement is kind of what i was getting at....i'm not saying that companies can't build 500hp muscle cars in mass quantities, just that so many factors(insurance, fuel, safety, ect.) are going to limit it......i can't remember if it was colletti or jon moss that said they are pretty much at the limit with what they are going to churn out hp-wise, so they are looking at other ways to up performance....not that either of those guys hasn't been wrong before

Phoenix 5.7

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i don't care what it is called, as long as GM makes a decent looking rear wheel drive v8 making 400+ horses. that is way too long to wait though. i WILL have a GT500 by then

OctaneZ28

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Good to see the rest of the world catching up to what I've known for 6 weeks.

Iroc313

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what did she do to it like wreck it or scratch it

orange01z28

its a good day now

kbronSS

ill believe it when i see it. better be quick, im itching for a Cobra......they are starting to grow on me.

JD_AMG

Id be surprised if the top of line model (I assume SS) gets anything over 400hp. You know GM's little "cant beat the Corvette" rule. It will probably have the 400hp LS2, rated at 385hp so the C6 boys dont get upset.

STRETCH'S T/A

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yeah my dad works for gm and have know about the camaro coming back, he hasn't said anything about the firebird, but i think it depends on how the gto works out, and the corvette rule does exist, cars can come close in hp, but can't surpass it

jdustu

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i think we can safely assume that by 2009 we will be past the ls2 for current production.....

BLK85

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I agree with you man. I think it sounds like a good deal but the only thing that would hold me back is the blue oval on the front. GM better hurry.

'Trust'

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Im w/you on the engine choices, although i think the car may get a 425hp option...
HP is going up, but i dont think GM will ever put the ls7 in a fbod, think about it, they've never put a full ls6 motor in a 4th gen..(given the block, but still ls1 heads) To make a camaro a competitor w/the zo6 is not GM, a ls7 5th gen would destroy a c6 and GM wont have that, the motor alone would make the car too expensive, and it seems to me that gm is realizing that cheap HP sells.

I think that the camaro may come w/a 425hp option by 2010, just because of the 425hp motor thats going in the GNX, im guessing a ls2 or ls2 variant, i think it would be kind of cool if the z28 was king of the hill like it had been before, and not the SS. I bet by 2010 the vette will see a boost in power on the base model, maybe 450 and the zo6 at 550 or 600, this is all purely my thoughts/hopes, dont take them as fact, its just what i think, but now i have a dilema, mod the TA, or save the the camaro/gto?

Parker TX

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.....at least its coming back.

jdustu

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??? something else that you'd like to share????

i'm guessing your getting this info based on a fake gnx pic and spec sheet that's been floating around for a while, i don't believe there is any real info out there to support this.....

2002BlackSS

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Realistically, the Camaro could hit the streets much earlier than 2009 .

It will likely have the engines mentioned. Likely at about 390hp, though, as the top end. The possible variance would be if the Corvette's hp got increased (which is very possible).

WECIV

I thought the idea was to get the car out extremely fast?

jdustu

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why would they bother rating it at 390 when the gto already has one rated the same as the vette?

how are they getting around the issue with montreal? or are they building it there? paying them off?

and if it waits till 2009 it's not really gonna have one of the current power plants is it?

inquiring minds want to know

TA4U2NV

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well, I know that if it has 4 doors like every other car now-a-days, no mney is coming it's way from me.

2002BlackSS

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I'll address these as I understand the answers with the limited insight I have (which could prove to be more or less than others).

1. Because, as already mentioned, they do have a "rule" that keeps the Corvette as the top dog. FWIW, I don't know the justification GM execs have for it, but I imagine it's along the lines of the other vehicles GM offers with the same power as the Corvette are in different product lines and don't match the vette in overall performance.

2. It will not be manufactured at that plant. It will likely be in MI, possibly Lansing. While I don't know of a final settlement concerning the issue of name use, the fact that they are releasing a build date would clearly demonstrate that it has been resolved.

3. As I said, it's likely the Camaro will hit the streets much sooner than 2009, which would certainly dictate the use of those engines. Even if it does come out around then, you'll know what to expect as a powerplant by looking at the vette.

StealthFormula

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I say we go kill Bob Lutz for that statement, anyone with me? lol
man id love to beat his *** for that

transAm-98

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i think the only way we are getting the firebird back is if we kill the GTO (which sucks), but personally , if the the GTO stays on the path it's on i'd MUCH rather see a new firebird (with more cubes)