New Camaro!! Finally Official!!!
08-07-2005, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LTSpeed
I'll be impressed if they can go from the 2006 concept to 2008 production of a 2009 model. It took 11 years (1982) for the California Camaro concept to become the production 4th Gen.
08-07-2005, 07:23 PM
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Hell, by 2009-10, they will probably need 550-600 HP to compete with the Cobras and SRT series cars, not to mention the rumors of the Challenger coming back. Just PLEASE don't use the 10 bolt again and use tq management to try to make it live. 
By then, give us 450-500 HP base, with maybe a forced induction option for the ZO6 and top of the line camaro. And a drivetrain with plenty of strength to build on. I still won't believe its coming back until I see it though.
By then, give us 450-500 HP base, with maybe a forced induction option for the ZO6 and top of the line camaro. And a drivetrain with plenty of strength to build on. I still won't believe its coming back until I see it though. 
08-07-2005, 07:31 PM
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**** GM, **** TREEHUGGERS, **** THE CARS OF 2010 RUNNING ON SUGAR OR SOME ****.....
i want something htat gets terrible gas mileage, pisses off everyone else, looks simple but good, makes great ******* power, and gets it to the ground, has a great aftermarket, and a great board to post about it on....
WAIT, i already have that all here with my 02 z28 and YOU GUYS!
i want something htat gets terrible gas mileage, pisses off everyone else, looks simple but good, makes great ******* power, and gets it to the ground, has a great aftermarket, and a great board to post about it on....
WAIT, i already have that all here with my 02 z28 and YOU GUYS!
08-07-2005, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ru2n00n3er
It is. Lutz is pissed because of how long the Solstice has taken to go from concept to dealership lot, and they're still not in dealerships. GM is trying to speed up the design/production cycles of all their cars to get them to market faster to react to market changes better. So if they're bringing it back for the Auto show this Jan. I can't see it taking nearly that long ot actually bring it to market.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...threadid=18294
08-08-2005, 11:45 AM
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Link? 
08-08-2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jdustu
why would they bother rating it at 390 when the gto already has one rated the same as the vette?
how are they getting around the issue with montreal? or are they building it there? paying them off?
and if it waits till 2009 it's not really gonna have one of the current power plants is it?
inquiring minds want to know
how are they getting around the issue with montreal? or are they building it there? paying them off?
and if it waits till 2009 it's not really gonna have one of the current power plants is it?
inquiring minds want to know
St. Tereasa I do believe lasts through 2007, not 2009. I'm still curious about chassis and whether its IRS or Live Rear. I hope for the latter.
08-08-2005, 12:34 PM
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the concept pic looks interesting, i hope they use some retro cues, but with more modern lines. but not so direct like the new mustang, all this retro looking stuff is getting on my nerves. i hope they have a nice blend of both in something that retains the image of the camaro : performance, affordability, sleek aggressive lines, low and wide (not tall and boxy like the stang).
some nice features would be
~glass roof panels (duh)
~real true dual exhaust (no y-pipe)
~no charge manual tranny (like before) Z06 spec tranny would be nice, w/ stronger clutch
~solid axle w/ IRS option
~nice aluminum accents for interior, no plastic crap
~nice place to store tops so they dont take up the entire trunk
~no hump on passenger floorboard
~stronger rear (bye bye 10 bolt)
~stereo w/ MP3 player hookup (aux port), MP3 CD capability, in dash changer, etc..
it would also be nice to have a stronger aftermarket for parts and options, *cough* like the mustang *cough*.
i am exceited they are coming back, but i would rather for them to take thier time and get it right than hurry the process and screw it up. we have been waiting a while for this so i hope they get it right....
some nice features would be
~glass roof panels (duh)
~real true dual exhaust (no y-pipe)
~no charge manual tranny (like before) Z06 spec tranny would be nice, w/ stronger clutch
~solid axle w/ IRS option
~nice aluminum accents for interior, no plastic crap
~nice place to store tops so they dont take up the entire trunk
~no hump on passenger floorboard
~stronger rear (bye bye 10 bolt)
~stereo w/ MP3 player hookup (aux port), MP3 CD capability, in dash changer, etc..
it would also be nice to have a stronger aftermarket for parts and options, *cough* like the mustang *cough*.
i am exceited they are coming back, but i would rather for them to take thier time and get it right than hurry the process and screw it up. we have been waiting a while for this so i hope they get it right....
08-08-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Posted on another forum...
See this link:
http://www.cardesignnews.com/portfol...rtfolioID=2662
08-08-2005, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002BlackSS
I'm sorry, when did the Solstice get premiered (January 2004)? Oh, yeah the first of them were just delivered this week (8/5). That's a lead time of about 20 months. Not bad at all in the auto industry, especially since the release was delayed.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...threadid=18294
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...threadid=18294
That picture looks a lot like the rear end of the Chrysler Firepower.
08-08-2005, 07:45 PM
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I would like the new Camaro to have a trunk much like the Monte Carlo (no hatchback), not so rounded styling like GTO but smoother lines than the Mustang, lighter weight option ( no air, no power windows etc.), stronger rear strait axle, inline 5 cylinder or strong LSX motor option.
This can be fun and very profitable GM, screw frontwheel drive.
This can be fun and very profitable GM, screw frontwheel drive.
08-08-2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ru2n00n3er
I didn't say I thought it was slow, 20 months is good time. I just read that Lutz wanted the development to be even faster, so the next major design he was looking to speed up even more.
.At least what I said supported what you said if you ignore the sarcasm
. 