Silverado VS Tundra VS F150
07-02-2007, 12:11 PM
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Silverado VS Tundra VS F150 Silver Creek truck test video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zShwG9l1F0Q
I don't even need to comment, this one speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zShwG9l1F0Q
I don't even need to comment, this one speaks for itself.
07-02-2007, 03:36 PM
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I'd still take a silverado over the f-150. I'm the asst. vehicle manager for the U.S. coast gaurd and we have 52 trucks in total, a mix of dodge,ford and chevy....all dullies. The chevy has the least maint. issues, the best pulling power and the best tranny. The fords spend many hours in the shop from tranny work, to ses lights, to rear end probs. The dodges are pretty decent overall, but they require maint. on little annoying stuff. Granted these were different from the trucks in the comparo. vid posted, but I know our guys put our trucks through some serious **** and the chevy comes out on top.
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07-03-2007, 01:15 AM
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No surprise,
Working as a Development Engineer at GM and Nissans proving grounds in the 90's I conducted competitor testing and analysis on small and light trucks. Typical tests involved instrumenting the vehicles with accelerometers and microphones and running them over controlled road surfaces at set speeds. This was preceded by subjective tests over the same surfaces.
Ford trucks at that time had the thickest frame rails in their class. The Imports had the thinest frames across the board. If you don't believe me take a measurement next time you have the chance when your looking at a Tacoma, Ranger or S10. The Fords typically had a a better frame and axle but were less refined than the equivalent GM. I believe that the edge in the engine department and sometimes in the T/M goes to the GM. I had the opportunity to conduct tests on the previous Tundra and I'm sure they were shooting at GM as the target vehicle as far as ride and comfort goes. I didn't do durability tests but road input measured in the cab was much better on the GM, than the Ford or Tundra. Having driven Ford trucks today, they have improved dramatically since I was doing vehicle testing.
I do admit that I am biased towards the GM truck, but it is easy to be when it has a great engine
, great ride and best gas mileage in class thanks to DOD on the new trucks. Hell if I want any killer performance LSx part, theres as much available for the GM as all of the others combined.
Working as a Development Engineer at GM and Nissans proving grounds in the 90's I conducted competitor testing and analysis on small and light trucks. Typical tests involved instrumenting the vehicles with accelerometers and microphones and running them over controlled road surfaces at set speeds. This was preceded by subjective tests over the same surfaces.
Ford trucks at that time had the thickest frame rails in their class. The Imports had the thinest frames across the board. If you don't believe me take a measurement next time you have the chance when your looking at a Tacoma, Ranger or S10. The Fords typically had a a better frame and axle but were less refined than the equivalent GM. I believe that the edge in the engine department and sometimes in the T/M goes to the GM. I had the opportunity to conduct tests on the previous Tundra and I'm sure they were shooting at GM as the target vehicle as far as ride and comfort goes. I didn't do durability tests but road input measured in the cab was much better on the GM, than the Ford or Tundra. Having driven Ford trucks today, they have improved dramatically since I was doing vehicle testing.
I do admit that I am biased towards the GM truck, but it is easy to be when it has a great engine
, great ride and best gas mileage in class thanks to DOD on the new trucks. Hell if I want any killer performance LSx part, theres as much available for the GM as all of the others combined. Last edited by TT632; 07-05-2007 at 04:30 PM.
07-03-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kukri
Ok, visit other cars section on supraforums for some toyota boys defending action...
They just CANNOT accept anything other than that. If they had their way TOY would already run/control this county's auto industry/WHOLE economy, and it would be the ONLY product one could buy! 
07-04-2007, 11:10 PM
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Hey CTSmechanic,
Are you going to be testing at the Noise and Vibration Facility. Very nice facility. I had a few trips there when I worked out of the DPG. Actually, the equipment I used at GM was better and newer than what I use in the Aerospace business. Go figure, it helps when you produce a few hundred thousand trucks vs. a 100 missiles.
I miss the cars but I don't miss the beauracracy.
Are you going to be testing at the Noise and Vibration Facility. Very nice facility. I had a few trips there when I worked out of the DPG. Actually, the equipment I used at GM was better and newer than what I use in the Aerospace business. Go figure, it helps when you produce a few hundred thousand trucks vs. a 100 missiles.
I miss the cars but I don't miss the beauracracy.
07-05-2007, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TT632
Hey CTSmechanic,
Are you going to be testing at the Noise and Vibration Facility. Very nice facility. I had a few trips there when I worked out of the DPG. Actually, the equipment I used at GM was better and newer than what I use in the Aerospace business. Go figure, it helps when you produce a few hundred thousand trucks vs. a 100 missiles.
I miss the cars but I don't miss the beauracracy.
Are you going to be testing at the Noise and Vibration Facility. Very nice facility. I had a few trips there when I worked out of the DPG. Actually, the equipment I used at GM was better and newer than what I use in the Aerospace business. Go figure, it helps when you produce a few hundred thousand trucks vs. a 100 missiles.
I miss the cars but I don't miss the beauracracy.
07-05-2007, 12:38 PM
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I think the reason why the Chevy was so skittish over the "railroad track" testing grounds was simply because its dampers are stronger than the Ford and Tundra, and the springs are a bit stiffer. All of that would make it jump like that, but on a normal, non-destruction minded road, that would give the Chevrolet a major edge in the handling department.
07-05-2007, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Swantko View Post
Apples to Pop Tarts when comparing the Diesels. Of course they will have better resale than the gasoline powered truck - however, compare similarly equipped trucks, both gasoline and the Yota will come away with the win by a big margin.
who compared diesels to gasoline examples?
I guess it will be apple flavored pop tarts then.
2006
Toyota Tundra 4.7 Crew limited<--- top of the line right?
Sale Price $29,259 $25,948-- $22,637 $25,694-- $26,474
Mileage--- 9,021---- 18,042-- 27,063-- 17,147---- 8,156
2006
F150 king Ranch 4.6L Crew cab
Sale Price $29,475--- $27,262--- $25,049--- $27,245----$27,055-- $29,796
Mileage--- 9,524------ 19,048----- 28,572--- 19,388--- 19,700------ 3,960
2007 Toyota Tundra
5.7L Crew Limited
05/31/07 MANHEIM Regular $41,500 852 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
Now to add insult to injury for the same money as a 2007 tundra you can buy a
2007
F250 TD King Ranch 6.0L TD
Sale Price $38,147-- $36,491--- $34,835--- $36,491----- $37,050 $0
Mileage--- 4,951----- 9,901------ 14,852----- 9,901------- 12,930 0
Now why anyone would buy a 2007 Tundra over a F250 King Ranch with the 6.0L Turbo is beyond me. Now whos going to be first to say a 5.7L 2007 Tundra is a better value than a F250 King Ranch any takers?
Regards,
Originally Posted by Jim Swantko View Post
Apples to Pop Tarts when comparing the Diesels. Of course they will have better resale than the gasoline powered truck - however, compare similarly equipped trucks, both gasoline and the Yota will come away with the win by a big margin.
who compared diesels to gasoline examples?
I guess it will be apple flavored pop tarts then.
2006
Toyota Tundra 4.7 Crew limited<--- top of the line right?
Sale Price $29,259 $25,948-- $22,637 $25,694-- $26,474
Mileage--- 9,021---- 18,042-- 27,063-- 17,147---- 8,156
2006
F150 king Ranch 4.6L Crew cab
Sale Price $29,475--- $27,262--- $25,049--- $27,245----$27,055-- $29,796
Mileage--- 9,524------ 19,048----- 28,572--- 19,388--- 19,700------ 3,960
2007 Toyota Tundra
5.7L Crew Limited
05/31/07 MANHEIM Regular $41,500 852 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
Now to add insult to injury for the same money as a 2007 tundra you can buy a
2007
F250 TD King Ranch 6.0L TD
Sale Price $38,147-- $36,491--- $34,835--- $36,491----- $37,050 $0
Mileage--- 4,951----- 9,901------ 14,852----- 9,901------- 12,930 0
Now why anyone would buy a 2007 Tundra over a F250 King Ranch with the 6.0L Turbo is beyond me. Now whos going to be first to say a 5.7L 2007 Tundra is a better value than a F250 King Ranch any takers?
Regards,
07-05-2007, 07:25 PM
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Yea I belive so... this is my first time going ive been told theres 7 or so shakers beating the crap out of new passenger cars along with all sorts of torture devices for vehicle componets...Im more excited then I before my first trip to the wind tunnel..thats boring.....
When you are displacing parts of your vehicle as much as that video showed, parts are going to be breaking off real quick? They had to know about this before they released the Tundra
07-05-2007, 07:59 PM
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more info.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE&NR=1
what bothers me is since totoya offered 0% on this truck it sales are picking up while fords and GMs dropped off.
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/otf0999.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE&NR=1
what bothers me is since totoya offered 0% on this truck it sales are picking up while fords and GMs dropped off.
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/otf0999.html
