The Manalishi

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The posts are there. I am not looking for an answer but what counterpoint do you have to the reality of Nissans involvment in world class racing with several manufacturers. Le Mans, Sebring or any other racing series where the big dogs that Nissan is aiming for race. Japan and Australia aren't it. Lets see a Nissan that really raced the companies they are aiming to beat. Unless they have been to Le Mans they can't say they have beaten Porsche. Unless they show up at the American Le Mans Series they can't say they have beaten GM or Dodge. Hell if they only race in Japan they can't say they beat anyone on the international stage. There are several Japanese manufacturers that have had somewhat successful ventures but they were just that somewhat. Mazda got banned(I disagree with the reason), Honda can't keep a good driver, Acura fell apart, Toyota has failed in F1 and Nissan has not tried outside of Japan. Are Japanese cars bad, no but they have not EARNED the respect of the community by developing a successful program that wins. Toyota may be onto something with NASCAR but they have an advantage. They designed a cam in block engine after looking at the big three's engines and taking the best of each. It is what I would do but they did not use a pre existing engine like the big three did. They should be better. Toyota in Top Fuel Funny Car is a joke because they are using an engine designed by Chrysler just like everyone else in Top Fuel classes. Its just a body and money even if it is well placed money.

2000Hawk

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Like i said a few post back, since its left hand drive does it make makes it legit?
That doesn't mean a damn thing, that just means thats what it will look like when it gets here. And as eveyone else has stated the car is not legendary or the pinnacle of motorsports if its beating teams on only its home soil. Nissan did try hitting up Le Mans in the late 90's, and that was with some skylines. But then what they disappeared, and they haven't tried coming out to the party to show the world they are serious. They rather just be a legend in Japan, where they don't have to worry about some foreign automaker making them look silly.
-Joel

ChaseSS

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oh yeah I forgot that because its left hand drive it means its the exact version we get over here and that automatically qualifies it as the "american version"...... it wasn't using american fuel and it wasn't on our shores, thus its not the american version. CASE CLOSED, when it comes here you can make another cute little screen name and we an argue about it, but till then

castillo

Your reading comprehension is that of a retarded mouse. The left hand drive version did not use race gas, that was another ariticle by CobbTuning. The GTR's are on our shores. We or should I say I or should I say magazines or should I say more independent test have nothing else to prove to you. Maybe if you read the Nurburgring times from the bottom up, it may give you a glimpse of hope for the Z06. Naw, it still fell short. Just like the Road&Track article where it was 5 seconds behind. Damn, now that I think about it, thats 20 cars. When you can find one article suggesting the GTR is not what its cracked up to be or that the numbers are somehow forged then I will acknowledge you. Until then, go rest your ***, becuase you've been riding my **** way to damn long!

bboyferal

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^ 'bout time.

The Manalishi

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I still didn't get a response. Now I'll have to wait until he makes a new screen name.

bboyferal

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Give him a couple of minutes...

2000Hawk

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C'mon guys hes right, its left hand drive so everything must be right.
-Joel

slmdLS1

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yes it can. Tally TransAm on here ran 11.4 @ 124 on 409rwhp.

2000Hawk

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Don't bother arguing with this guy, we are wrong the GTR doesn't make 480HP. Even though it only made those numbers, because of its advanced drivetrain set-up. And even then his only proof that the car made more power than advertised were of people who tested it with a mix of 91 and 100 octane. Hes just another fan boy here starting up trouble, to try and convince us that some how a car that is dominant in its home court is god even though it isn't even a small competitor on a world scale.
-Joel

OKcruising

Well I heard that if you criticize a GTR, it'll send hordes of keyboard ninjas to attack you...

All the while, sitting on it's castle made on the sand of disinformation.

dailydriver

Only anti-domestic fanatic, pimps for Japan come onto a domestic site and try to get us to worship their products like you MUST.
WTF is with the "We"??? Like others have asked; you are on Nissan's payroll now? Are you a citizen of Japan? Work for the Nippon Ministry Of Trade?
Do you really hate this country and it's products/manufacturers that much?? (And don't start with the "I bought/drive this and that domestic" BS, because no one believes you anymore. Even if they did what do you look like calling them all pure **** and then buying them? )

Obviously you do care.
Why else would you create numerous screen names/sidenames and keep posting after MANY bans to; stir ****, worship imports, **** talk and belittle domestics??

Hydramatic

You do realize that those are GERMAN-spec cars, right? They are left-hand drive in Deutschland, where they were testing those on the 'Ring...

RedBeauty84ZX

No they are not. This is one of the cars Nissan tested on the ring:


Right hand drive like very other GTR until recently. Besides....Germany won't even get the GTR for almost a year after the US. The left hand drive GTRs are ALL US-Spec right now.

RedBeauty84ZX

FYI Nissan has raced in Le Mans numerous times. Nissan actually has a long and rich racing history. In 1994 Nissan won the GTS 24 Hours of Le Mans, 24 hours of Daytona, and 12 Hours of Sebring all in the same year...the only manufacturer to accomplish such a feat within the same year. And yes they dominated Porsche through out the 80's and 90's:

2000Hawk

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Damn i forgot about that car, thats one of the sickest 300ZX ever. And it was driven by one of Corvettes Racings own Johnny O' Connell.
-Joel

bboyferal

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I don't believe anyone ever said they had NO international sports car racing heritage, but those accolades, impressive as they are, do not put them on the level of GM, Porsche, BMW, etc...

Nissan is NOT a dominant force in international sports car racing...

The Manalishi

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I stand corrected. Thanks for setting it straight. But I think that one car and its successes do not make them a dominating force in international racing. I am not taking anything away from them for this car but I think as a whole you you understand what I was saying.

bboyferal

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Castillo wouldn't understand this... I hope this guy does, but they seem to like to respond only when they can score a point for Nissan. Otherwise, they don't post.

RedBeauty84ZX

I never said Nissans international motorsport history surpasses Porsche,GMs, or BMWs. But contrary to what most of you think Nissan actually does have a long and rich international racing history...nothing to scoff at.

Nissans racing history before the 60s was predominantly in Japan with a few sanctioned events in Austrailia. Nissan has well over 200 IMSA victories under their belt, over 20 international off-road titles, and over 7 victories at the legendary safari rally. The 300ZX to this day still holds land speed records at bonneville at 260+MPH. The GTR still to this day remains the quickest AWD car in the world with 7 second record passes. Nissan has also won the GTS class at the 24 hours of Le Mans, 4 wins at 24 hours of Daytona, and 12 hours of Sebring.

Heres just a list of some of the major victories Nissan has won between 1969-2004.



IMSA GTP Manufacturers Championship:
1989
1990
1991

IMSA GTP Drivers Championship:
1988
1989
1990
1991

IMSA GTO/GTS Drivers Championship:
1982
1992
1994

IMSA GTU MANUFACTURERS Championship:
1975
1976
1979
1991
1992
1993
1994

IMSA GTU Drivers Championship
1974
1975
1976
1979
1989
1992
1993
1994

IMSA RS/ISC Drivers Championship:
1977
1980

IMSA RS/ISC Manufacturer Championship:
1971
1977

IMSA Endurance Championship:
1986 (Also claimed Manufacturer championship same year)
1996 (also claimed Manufacturer championship same year)

SCCA Trans/AM 2.5 Championship:
1971
1972

SCCA Showroom Stock Endurance Championship:
1985
1988 ( Also one Manufacturer championship same year)

SCCA Pro-Rally Championship:
1985

National Rally Manufacturers Championship:
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1980
1981

Pro Rally Manufacturers Championship:
1975
1976
1977(tied)
1978
1979

North American Rally cup Championship:
1977
1978
1979

SCORE Off-Road World Championship:
1982
1985
1986
1986
1987
1989
1991

MTEG Grand National Truck Championships:
1983
1985

SCCA RaceTruck Challenge Drivers Championships:
1987
1989

SCCA RaceTruck Challenge Manufacturer Championships:
1989
1990

Pikes Peak Hillclimb:
1989 (steve millen)

SODA Short Course Truck Driver Championship:
1992
1995
1996


SCCA National Championship Total: 90

GT-1:
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988

GT2:
1984
1986
1987
1998
2003

GT3:
1980
1981
1983
1998
2003

GT4:
1983
1990
1991
1992
1993
1998
1999
2000
2002
2003

GT-5:
1988
1990
1991
1992
1994
1995
1999

C/P:
1970
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1979

D/P:
1969
1970
1971
1972
1978

E/P:
1987

F/P:
1967

G/P:
1976
1981
1982
2001
2004

B/S:
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1978
1979

C/S:
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1979

SS/GT:
1983

SS/A
1977
1978
1982
1983
1984
1985
1987
1992
1993
1994

SS/B:
1992
1993
1995
1996

SS/C:
1983
1984