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12-28-2009, 07:48 PM
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The S2000 is a 2.0 (or 2.2) liter engine making 120hp per liter (or 109hp/liter)... the 5.0 will be making 82.4hp/liter. I hate using ricer-stats, but it shows that the Coyote probably isn't nearly as taxed as people think.
12-29-2009, 07:54 AM
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12-29-2009, 03:56 PM
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OK, thanks guys. I found 5 UOA's to reference, an 05, 06,07 & (2) 08's. All were using 5W-20.
-05 had alot of track time & was higher than normal in lead. This would be expected is a result of car use while using 5W-20.
-06 was supercharged w/ alot of track use & was higher than normal in iron/copper. Again, expected as a result of the cars' use while lubed w/ 5W-20.
-07 was good w/ normal wear numbers.
(2) 08's were good w/ normal wear numbers.
Was intersting for me to see how 5W-20 is a good lubricant for these engines, on the street. The viscocity for 5W-20 is from 45-58 SUS. Rule of thumb is 65-70 SUS viscocity @ 100*C or 212*F; oil temperature (not coolant temp,) is ideal for bearing protection. Of course this is just a basic standard. Obviously, these Ford engines have tighter tolerances &/or may be designed to run cooler; maybe 160*F coolant temp? It can be seen that the track cars suffered while using 5W-20, most likely due to higher operating temperatures causing the 5W-20 to loose viscosity. Again, with higher engine temperature, reduced viscosity would occur in any engine. Always better to use a heavier weight oil for track days (when increasing engine temps above normal levels) & then drain it immediately afterward.
For reference: I have seen my oil temps reach the 280*F area when the coolant was only 215*F, while on a road course. So, coolant temperatures don't always reflect what's going on w/ the oil. Usually, oil is 20*-25*F higher than coolant temperatures under normal driving conditions. You can see the 65*F spike while on the track.
Sorry, if a little off topic. Although, it does directly relate the Mustang engine in the thread.
-05 had alot of track time & was higher than normal in lead. This would be expected is a result of car use while using 5W-20.
-06 was supercharged w/ alot of track use & was higher than normal in iron/copper. Again, expected as a result of the cars' use while lubed w/ 5W-20.
-07 was good w/ normal wear numbers.
(2) 08's were good w/ normal wear numbers.
Was intersting for me to see how 5W-20 is a good lubricant for these engines, on the street. The viscocity for 5W-20 is from 45-58 SUS. Rule of thumb is 65-70 SUS viscocity @ 100*C or 212*F; oil temperature (not coolant temp,) is ideal for bearing protection. Of course this is just a basic standard. Obviously, these Ford engines have tighter tolerances &/or may be designed to run cooler; maybe 160*F coolant temp? It can be seen that the track cars suffered while using 5W-20, most likely due to higher operating temperatures causing the 5W-20 to loose viscosity. Again, with higher engine temperature, reduced viscosity would occur in any engine. Always better to use a heavier weight oil for track days (when increasing engine temps above normal levels) & then drain it immediately afterward.
For reference: I have seen my oil temps reach the 280*F area when the coolant was only 215*F, while on a road course. So, coolant temperatures don't always reflect what's going on w/ the oil. Usually, oil is 20*-25*F higher than coolant temperatures under normal driving conditions. You can see the 65*F spike while on the track.
Sorry, if a little off topic. Although, it does directly relate the Mustang engine in the thread.
12-29-2009, 07:03 PM
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I remember when I first took delivery of my Mach 1 back in 2002, we were told to run 0W-20 oil in the car! Then it became 5W-20. When I had my Ford Racing Aluminator motor installed, the Ford Racing techs told me to break it in with good old 10W-30 non synthetic fossil oil! When I asked about what to run after the break in, they said that under no circumstances to go back to 5W-20, but instead use 5W-30 full synthetic.
12-30-2009, 12:04 AM
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Mobil 1 has a 0w-20 synthetic oil that is very nice for low mileage Ford cars and trucks. I would trust Mobil 1 0w-20 for NA applications, not for FI or nitrous, because it is guaranteed by Exxon-Mobil.
12-31-2009, 05:11 AM
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I remember when I first took delivery of my Mach 1 back in 2002, we were told to run 0W-20 oil in the car! Then it became 5W-20. When I had my Ford Racing Aluminator motor installed, the Ford Racing techs told me to break it in with good old 10W-30 non synthetic fossil oil! When I asked about what to run after the break in, they said that under no circumstances to go back to 5W-20, but instead use 5W-30 full synthetic.
01-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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That's why it was so easy to work a KILLER deal on Mustangs in past years, regardless of what the MSRPs were. It was very easy to get $4-$5k off Mustang GTs, especially when there were '04s still on the lots and the '05s were starting to come in.
01-18-2010, 10:07 PM
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And the plot thickens: Shelby is bringing back the GT350 with some heavily revised styling for the 2010+ body.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html
01-19-2010, 03:58 AM
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And the plot thickens: Shelby is bringing back the GT350 with some heavily revised styling for the 2010+ body.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...350/index.html
