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#28
The subjective comments are snoozeville, but the data posted makes you wonder if the PS2's pricing is justified. One thing I did learn, as with all of their products, stay away from the Chinese, as there is no assurance of minimum quality/performance levels. I was not impressed with how the Invos performed, as posters on corvetteforum.com led me to believe they were at par with the PS2s, which is obviously not the case.
Look, I love my PS2s. But I have no problem admitting the the new Yoko Neovas or the RE-11s or even the new Ecsta XS is going to be more *****-to-the-wall in max dry grip. There's no doubt, just look at the tread compounds and the uber-aggressive tread patterns. Heck, some have barely any tread patterns. It's almost all rubber.
However, the PS2 has an excellent tread compound that gives you a lot of good, dry grip. It's excellent in the wet. But the amount of experience Michelin has gained in Formula 1 with small wheels and huge sidewalls has really benefited their street tires. The grip and steering feel in the PS2s are very progressive. I know exactly what my tires are doing at all times, right up to the very limits. And while I don't get the ride on rails "right now!" turn-in of the F1 Supercars, it is still quick and deliberate and always in control.
It's just a phenomenal tire, well worth the price to me.
#29
They look like plaid. Is your friend Scottish? As for handling and performance, he did buy a boat so I guess they would feel great...
#30
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Many tires feel hard core maybe because of a good turn-in. And the biggest issue in tires is that any new tire is going to feel better than an older one.
Look, I love my PS2s. But I have no problem admitting the the new Yoko Neovas or the RE-11s or even the new Ecsta XS is going to be more *****-to-the-wall in max dry grip. There's no doubt, just look at the tread compounds and the uber-aggressive tread patterns. Heck, some have barely any tread patterns. It's almost all rubber.
However, the PS2 has an excellent tread compound that gives you a lot of good, dry grip. It's excellent in the wet. But the amount of experience Michelin has gained in Formula 1 with small wheels and huge sidewalls has really benefited their street tires. The grip and steering feel in the PS2s are very progressive. I know exactly what my tires are doing at all times, right up to the very limits. And while I don't get the ride on rails "right now!" turn-in of the F1 Supercars, it is still quick and deliberate and always in control.
It's just a phenomenal tire, well worth the price to me.
Look, I love my PS2s. But I have no problem admitting the the new Yoko Neovas or the RE-11s or even the new Ecsta XS is going to be more *****-to-the-wall in max dry grip. There's no doubt, just look at the tread compounds and the uber-aggressive tread patterns. Heck, some have barely any tread patterns. It's almost all rubber.
However, the PS2 has an excellent tread compound that gives you a lot of good, dry grip. It's excellent in the wet. But the amount of experience Michelin has gained in Formula 1 with small wheels and huge sidewalls has really benefited their street tires. The grip and steering feel in the PS2s are very progressive. I know exactly what my tires are doing at all times, right up to the very limits. And while I don't get the ride on rails "right now!" turn-in of the F1 Supercars, it is still quick and deliberate and always in control.
It's just a phenomenal tire, well worth the price to me.
I am on my second set of PS2s on my V, had on set on my C6, no complaints in wet or dry, do not autocross or track, and I think I got close to 15K in miles on all sets. One thing I have noticed about the Invos vs. the PS2s, is that the Michelins are quieter when out of the highway crusing at 70-80mph. I do think the 'Rags' are very subjective in their testing, but I do think they present alternatives that the budget-minded can go with. Ultimately, when picking my next set of tires will be mostly dictated by how much cash in my wallet, and the runflat PS2s will be my first choice if I am having a good month.
#32
I finally got around to reading all these postings. Thanks a TON for all the comments...
After making a few calls, I went to discount tire and got me Goodyear Eagle GTs 255/40s on stock rims (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...=TNEINT&cs=255).
I talked the service manager to get me out the door for $800. I am not planning on tracking it or anything (just daily driver) for a few months. These have been pretty quiet compared to my BFG G-Force KDWs.
I'll let you guys know how they do next time I rip 'em up on my way home...
In the mean time, what do you think?
After making a few calls, I went to discount tire and got me Goodyear Eagle GTs 255/40s on stock rims (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...=TNEINT&cs=255).
I talked the service manager to get me out the door for $800. I am not planning on tracking it or anything (just daily driver) for a few months. These have been pretty quiet compared to my BFG G-Force KDWs.
I'll let you guys know how they do next time I rip 'em up on my way home...
In the mean time, what do you think?
#34
sorry but that tire looks like it belongs on a buick roadmaster not a high performance cadillac, there are way more options then that imo but good luck.................not to mention did you see the reviews on discount tire? cars reviewed were scions, jettas, beetles, civics, acura, saab. hope it works out for ya.
#35
I finally got around to reading all these postings. Thanks a TON for all the comments...
After making a few calls, I went to discount tire and got me Goodyear Eagle GTs 255/40s on stock rims (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...=TNEINT&cs=255).
I talked the service manager to get me out the door for $800. I am not planning on tracking it or anything (just daily driver) for a few months. These have been pretty quiet compared to my BFG G-Force KDWs.
I'll let you guys know how they do next time I rip 'em up on my way home...
In the mean time, what do you think?
After making a few calls, I went to discount tire and got me Goodyear Eagle GTs 255/40s on stock rims (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...=TNEINT&cs=255).
I talked the service manager to get me out the door for $800. I am not planning on tracking it or anything (just daily driver) for a few months. These have been pretty quiet compared to my BFG G-Force KDWs.
I'll let you guys know how they do next time I rip 'em up on my way home...
In the mean time, what do you think?
For the money theres alot of better tires you could get. But good luck let us know how u make out.
#38
Don't the sidewalls bulge out quite a bit with 265s on an 8.5" wheel? Did turn in feel soft, delayed or spongy? Would you say you're experiencing more maximum grip than with the 245s? Wider tires on too narrow a wheel does not always mean improved grip on a road course, that's why I ask.
#39
They don't bulge much really. They give a nice wide look IMO. As for the feel I can only compare them to the run flats that were on the car when I bought it. Those are the BFG KD's at 28lbs psi and they work great. Just not in the rain or cold.
#40
For road course or autocross use, you should be at the least, more than halfway through the rim size parameters. At the best, closer to the maximum width. Any less and the carcass will feel dead and rubbery...you'll lose a lot of response.
Here are 275/40 PS2s on the rear (stock rims w/1" added to inside and a 5mm spacer) showing a stock appearing relationship between the sidewall and the rim: