Michelins PS2?
03-03-2010, 11:23 PM
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You'll love the car lowered. I really changes the looks a lot, although I suppose that can be said for any car.
I have my car lowered about 1.25" in front and 1.00" in rear and am planning on taking the wheels off this weekend and lowering it a bit more in preparation for a little photoshoot that I plan to do. I will probably post some pix next week if the weather holds out and I can actually get the pix.
Good luck with the spring cutting. I should turn out nice.
I have my car lowered about 1.25" in front and 1.00" in rear and am planning on taking the wheels off this weekend and lowering it a bit more in preparation for a little photoshoot that I plan to do. I will probably post some pix next week if the weather holds out and I can actually get the pix.
Good luck with the spring cutting. I should turn out nice.
03-04-2010, 01:49 PM
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I've had 4 different tires on my V.
Stock F1's, then 265/40 Michelin PS2's, then 265/40 BFG KD's, back to 265/40 PS2's, and now on 265/40 Eagle F1 Assymetrics. I would rate them as follows:
Ride: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > Stock
Grip/Handling: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > Stock > BFG KD's (better initially but horrible as they wore)
Noise: PS2's > Stock > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's
Treadwear: F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > PS2's > Stock (7K miles with wife driving
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I would have to say the Eagle F1 Assymetrics have been my best bang for the buck so far. 98% of the PS2 with a MUCH lower price. The PS2 was probably the best tire I've ever driven so that's saying alot.
Just my $.02 FWIW
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Stock F1's, then 265/40 Michelin PS2's, then 265/40 BFG KD's, back to 265/40 PS2's, and now on 265/40 Eagle F1 Assymetrics. I would rate them as follows:
Ride: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > Stock
Grip/Handling: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > Stock > BFG KD's (better initially but horrible as they wore)
Noise: PS2's > Stock > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's
Treadwear: F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > PS2's > Stock (7K miles with wife driving
)I would have to say the Eagle F1 Assymetrics have been my best bang for the buck so far. 98% of the PS2 with a MUCH lower price. The PS2 was probably the best tire I've ever driven so that's saying alot.
Just my $.02 FWIW
Shane
03-04-2010, 07:03 PM
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Maybe I need to go with a set of asymetrics then. Sound like they might be my best bang for the buck. I drive 75 miles a day between work and school so I need something that will last...
03-04-2010, 09:10 PM
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I've had 4 different tires on my V.
Stock F1's, then 265/40 Michelin PS2's, then 265/40 BFG KD's, back to 265/40 PS2's, and now on 265/40 Eagle F1 Assymetrics. I would rate them as follows:
Ride: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > Stock
Grip/Handling: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > Stock > BFG KD's (better initially but horrible as they wore)
Noise: PS2's > Stock > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's
Treadwear: F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > PS2's > Stock (7K miles with wife driving)
I would have to say the Eagle F1 Assymetrics have been my best bang for the buck so far. 98% of the PS2 with a MUCH lower price. The PS2 was probably the best tire I've ever driven so that's saying alot.
Just my $.02 FWIW
Shane
Stock F1's, then 265/40 Michelin PS2's, then 265/40 BFG KD's, back to 265/40 PS2's, and now on 265/40 Eagle F1 Assymetrics. I would rate them as follows:
Ride: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > Stock
Grip/Handling: PS2's > F1 Assymetrics > Stock > BFG KD's (better initially but horrible as they wore)
Noise: PS2's > Stock > F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's
Treadwear: F1 Assymetrics > BFG KD's > PS2's > Stock (7K miles with wife driving
)I would have to say the Eagle F1 Assymetrics have been my best bang for the buck so far. 98% of the PS2 with a MUCH lower price. The PS2 was probably the best tire I've ever driven so that's saying alot.
Just my $.02 FWIW
Shane
03-05-2010, 02:17 AM
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I picked up a couple of used pilot sport tires recently for the rear just to try out a non runflat for once and it was night and day from my RE040 Bridgestone run flats. I'll probably pick up 4 Nitto Invos once these wear down.
03-05-2010, 11:33 AM
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I've run 265/40's since my first set of replacment tires and would never go back. They fill out the wheelwells much better than stock and the car looks much more planted even sitting still.
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03-05-2010, 08:11 PM
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Anyone here running a 275/35/18 and 245/40/18 combo?
Would it cause any issues with the sensors or whatever?
Im just thinking... ill be lowering my car tomorrow and instead of running 275/40's and 245/45's, maybe i should drop down a little to take away some of the fatness on the sidewall and give my car a little more clearance.
Would it cause any issues with the sensors or whatever?
Im just thinking... ill be lowering my car tomorrow and instead of running 275/40's and 245/45's, maybe i should drop down a little to take away some of the fatness on the sidewall and give my car a little more clearance.
03-06-2010, 09:53 PM
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Asymetrical will be quieter and have the abilty of cross rotation, I love my Invo's and on my staggered setup get about 20,000 miles out of them.
Bridgestone RE960 Pole Positions and the Michel Pilot Sport AS Plus will both carry a mileage warranty, exempt if you run staggered though. Customers love the Pole Positions, excellent feedback.
Continental has come out with a new tire we have been selling the crap out of, Continental Extreme Contact DWS, asymmetrical design with a 50,000 mile warranty. Might be worth checking out.
But anyone coming in to the shop looking for the best all around performance the PS2 is the one we push. BadCad put it well, it is a give and take on what is most important.
Bridgestone RE960 Pole Positions and the Michel Pilot Sport AS Plus will both carry a mileage warranty, exempt if you run staggered though. Customers love the Pole Positions, excellent feedback.
Continental has come out with a new tire we have been selling the crap out of, Continental Extreme Contact DWS, asymmetrical design with a 50,000 mile warranty. Might be worth checking out.
But anyone coming in to the shop looking for the best all around performance the PS2 is the one we push. BadCad put it well, it is a give and take on what is most important.
03-06-2010, 09:58 PM
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I have:
* 265/40 on stock rims up front
* 275/40 on widened stock rims to 9.2" on the rears
The fronts are Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S - directional, so I swap them side to side every 10K mi, good tread wear, decent traction but noisy after 10Kmi. I had these tires on the rears too but they got very noisy towards the end and lasted about 15K mi.
The rears are Continental ExtremeContact DWS - asymmetrical tire, traction and temp are decent but the kicker with these tires is that they are a little less expensive than comparable tires AND come with a 50K mi treadwear warranty. I only have 5K mi on them ... so far, so good. In the past I've purchased BFG's, Michelins, and Goodyears for my V. For the $, these Conti's are not bad. I won't know for sure how much I appreciate this decision to switch to a tire maker I don't have any experience with until I get at least 20K mi on them. If I get 40K+ mi out of them I'll be a happy camper.
I just checked Discount Tire - many more sizes now since I purchased my Conti tires. I'll probably go to the stock size up front next time or the same 265/40's again ... for the daring, they do sell 295/35's now.
Example on prices @ Discount Tire for these Conti's:
245/45-18 @ $166
255/45/18 @ $196
265/40-18 @ $231
275/40-18 @ $211 ... this tire size = same overall diameter as stockers 245/45-18's
295/35-18 @ $240
* 265/40 on stock rims up front
* 275/40 on widened stock rims to 9.2" on the rears
The fronts are Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S - directional, so I swap them side to side every 10K mi, good tread wear, decent traction but noisy after 10Kmi. I had these tires on the rears too but they got very noisy towards the end and lasted about 15K mi.
The rears are Continental ExtremeContact DWS - asymmetrical tire, traction and temp are decent but the kicker with these tires is that they are a little less expensive than comparable tires AND come with a 50K mi treadwear warranty. I only have 5K mi on them ... so far, so good. In the past I've purchased BFG's, Michelins, and Goodyears for my V. For the $, these Conti's are not bad. I won't know for sure how much I appreciate this decision to switch to a tire maker I don't have any experience with until I get at least 20K mi on them. If I get 40K+ mi out of them I'll be a happy camper.
I just checked Discount Tire - many more sizes now since I purchased my Conti tires. I'll probably go to the stock size up front next time or the same 265/40's again ... for the daring, they do sell 295/35's now.
Example on prices @ Discount Tire for these Conti's:
245/45-18 @ $166
255/45/18 @ $196
265/40-18 @ $231
275/40-18 @ $211 ... this tire size = same overall diameter as stockers 245/45-18's
295/35-18 @ $240
12-21-2011, 11:48 PM
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I have:
* 265/40 on stock rims up front
* 275/40 on widened stock rims to 9.2" on the rears
The rears are Continental ExtremeContact DWS - asymmetrical tire, traction and temp are decent but the kicker with these tires is that they are a little less expensive than comparable tires AND come with a 50K mi treadwear warranty. I only have 5K mi on them ... so far, so good. In the past I've purchased BFG's, Michelins, and Goodyears for my V. For the $, these Conti's are not bad. I won't know for sure how much I appreciate this decision to switch to a tire maker I don't have any experience with until I get at least 20K mi on them. If I get 40K+ mi out of them I'll be a happy camper.
* 265/40 on stock rims up front
* 275/40 on widened stock rims to 9.2" on the rears
The rears are Continental ExtremeContact DWS - asymmetrical tire, traction and temp are decent but the kicker with these tires is that they are a little less expensive than comparable tires AND come with a 50K mi treadwear warranty. I only have 5K mi on them ... so far, so good. In the past I've purchased BFG's, Michelins, and Goodyears for my V. For the $, these Conti's are not bad. I won't know for sure how much I appreciate this decision to switch to a tire maker I don't have any experience with until I get at least 20K mi on them. If I get 40K+ mi out of them I'll be a happy camper.
12-22-2011, 04:26 PM
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Not trying to flame, but I can't imagine you are getting much more of a contact patch than the stock 245s, since you are still on the 8.5" stocker. But if it works for you, stick with it.
As for the Toyos, I just did a quick check and 245s are about $175 and 275-285s are about $215, so not really that bad.
My T1-Rs ran solid to about 15,000 miles and I think I put another 2,000 miles on them before changing them (so about 17,000 total), but they were pretty done at that point.
Yeah, the R888s only start with 6/32s of tread, and I figure I used about half of the tread in about 2,500 miles + a full track day + a lot of burnouts thrown in there because I had just recently installed the Wheelhop Kit. But it is true, I knew they were only going to last about 5,000-6,000 miles if driven on the street/track. They were an experiment to see how running r-comps on the street was, and I have mixed feelings about them. They are harsh on the street, but they perform beautifully on track and during hard street driving.
You have the best year of V (2004)
so yeah, the rear fender lips were rolled from the factory, and to the best of my knowledge, that was the only year that the fenders were pre-rolled. I went ahead and had all four corners rolled even more for that little extra bit of clearance. The factory roll was like 45° up, but with the extra roll, mine are now completely up and down and don't stick out into the tire at all.
As for the Toyos, I just did a quick check and 245s are about $175 and 275-285s are about $215, so not really that bad.
My T1-Rs ran solid to about 15,000 miles and I think I put another 2,000 miles on them before changing them (so about 17,000 total), but they were pretty done at that point.
Yeah, the R888s only start with 6/32s of tread, and I figure I used about half of the tread in about 2,500 miles + a full track day + a lot of burnouts thrown in there because I had just recently installed the Wheelhop Kit. But it is true, I knew they were only going to last about 5,000-6,000 miles if driven on the street/track. They were an experiment to see how running r-comps on the street was, and I have mixed feelings about them. They are harsh on the street, but they perform beautifully on track and during hard street driving.
You have the best year of V (2004)
so yeah, the rear fender lips were rolled from the factory, and to the best of my knowledge, that was the only year that the fenders were pre-rolled. I went ahead and had all four corners rolled even more for that little extra bit of clearance. The factory roll was like 45° up, but with the extra roll, mine are now completely up and down and don't stick out into the tire at all.
12-28-2011, 01:51 PM
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