Engine removal questions??
#1
Engine removal questions??
I need to pull the motor/trans from an 04 cts-v. I read up on it and I am use to old school stuff for eng R&R etc.
However this drop out the bottom way is new to me. I dont have a lift in my garage and was wonder how far in the air do you need to jack the nose up to clear the engine?
Any other tricks to pulling a motor installed this way would be appreciated.
Thanks
BobH
However this drop out the bottom way is new to me. I dont have a lift in my garage and was wonder how far in the air do you need to jack the nose up to clear the engine?
Any other tricks to pulling a motor installed this way would be appreciated.
Thanks
BobH
#7
It would seem way easier to support the subframe and lift the car off the engine. If you have a buddy with a lift or a garage, this would definitely be the way to go.
You can probably accomplish this with a heavy duty hoist too. Something to think about.
Take off the bumper, hood, and fenders and put them somewhere safe before you start!
You can probably accomplish this with a heavy duty hoist too. Something to think about.
Take off the bumper, hood, and fenders and put them somewhere safe before you start!
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#9
I wouldn't want them getting beat up from leaning on them or things falling on them.
Just a personal thing I guess. If I'm going to take the motor out of something and do work in the engine compartment, I'm going to make it as easy as possible to work on it rather than constantly having to work around and worry about nice shiny painted things. Changing spark plugs is one thing, but if the motor is coming out I think thats a big enough commitment to remove some body panels to make life easier.
Just a personal thing I guess. If I'm going to take the motor out of something and do work in the engine compartment, I'm going to make it as easy as possible to work on it rather than constantly having to work around and worry about nice shiny painted things. Changing spark plugs is one thing, but if the motor is coming out I think thats a big enough commitment to remove some body panels to make life easier.
#11
During removal, leave the bellhousing on the transmission so you'll have more firewall and cowl clearance.
Drive in to drive out time for the complete swap (engine, headers and cat-back) and associated detailing (heat shielding around wiring, etc.) was about 29 1/2 hours for me, but I tend to take my time, clear the shop of derelicts and lay off the suds until done.
#12
I did my 95 Z28 out the bottom without a lift. It was way easier. I followed a how to I found on Car Domain.
I put the car on jack stands, disconnected the brake lines, fuel lines, drive shaft and accessories, etc. Then loosened the undercarriage bolts.
I but the back of the car up as high as I could (with tires on) on crates.
Put the front of the car back down on the ground removed the undercarriage bolts, then unsed the lift to pull the car off the motor.
It was way easier, with my Camaro.
Found this link. Very similar to what I did.
http://www.michiganspeed.com/enginepull/index.html
I put the car on jack stands, disconnected the brake lines, fuel lines, drive shaft and accessories, etc. Then loosened the undercarriage bolts.
I but the back of the car up as high as I could (with tires on) on crates.
Put the front of the car back down on the ground removed the undercarriage bolts, then unsed the lift to pull the car off the motor.
It was way easier, with my Camaro.
Found this link. Very similar to what I did.
http://www.michiganspeed.com/enginepull/index.html
Last edited by branland; 12-14-2010 at 11:52 PM.
#18
Just didnt mine 2 days ago, out the bottom (00 Trans AM)...
Put the rear up. Then get 2 jackstands under the k member (but far enough apart to get a jack inbetween) and a trans jack under the trans (or a jack stand). The only extra step is the 2 front brakes have to be disconnected to pull out the kmember and the abs connections that mount by the wheels.
- Remove starter and alt
- The AC can just hang down w/out having to open the system. Just take it off the motor
- Remove everything off the top of the trans (shifter)
Then undo the bolts on the top for the struts, and the ones through the k member. Then jack the front of the car up, while the motor w/ headers and trans stay down. Use large jack stands to hold up the body. One jack on each side speeds up the process.
Then I bought 2 wooden square rollers from Harbor freight ($10 bucks each, able to hold 1 ton each)... id get a third if you dont have a transmission jack. Jack the motor and trans down onto the rollers, and you can move everything out from under the car.
Great time to service the trans, check out the clutch... etc. Thats why i love doing it this way. As the tran and motor can then be seperated and they are on their own rollers. Just make sure the motor is balance when you seperate them... might need to put the jack under if its not. I usually spend more time cleaning the engine bay then anything else. As your never going to have an easier time to do it! lol
I did it all by myself, so honestly its not difficult. Just gotta be careful. Be smart... take your time jacking. Think about there your jackstands are going... and where you are going to want the motor to go.
First time I removed the motor it was with a lift, so i was dreading doing it on the ground. Put it off for the longest time. I honestly believe it was easier this time, more because i was familiar with what needed to be done, then anything else. The hardest part is getting the wiring harness disconnected... w/out forgetting anything.
Good luck!
Put the rear up. Then get 2 jackstands under the k member (but far enough apart to get a jack inbetween) and a trans jack under the trans (or a jack stand). The only extra step is the 2 front brakes have to be disconnected to pull out the kmember and the abs connections that mount by the wheels.
- Remove starter and alt
- The AC can just hang down w/out having to open the system. Just take it off the motor
- Remove everything off the top of the trans (shifter)
Then undo the bolts on the top for the struts, and the ones through the k member. Then jack the front of the car up, while the motor w/ headers and trans stay down. Use large jack stands to hold up the body. One jack on each side speeds up the process.
Then I bought 2 wooden square rollers from Harbor freight ($10 bucks each, able to hold 1 ton each)... id get a third if you dont have a transmission jack. Jack the motor and trans down onto the rollers, and you can move everything out from under the car.
Great time to service the trans, check out the clutch... etc. Thats why i love doing it this way. As the tran and motor can then be seperated and they are on their own rollers. Just make sure the motor is balance when you seperate them... might need to put the jack under if its not. I usually spend more time cleaning the engine bay then anything else. As your never going to have an easier time to do it! lol
I did it all by myself, so honestly its not difficult. Just gotta be careful. Be smart... take your time jacking. Think about there your jackstands are going... and where you are going to want the motor to go.
First time I removed the motor it was with a lift, so i was dreading doing it on the ground. Put it off for the longest time. I honestly believe it was easier this time, more because i was familiar with what needed to be done, then anything else. The hardest part is getting the wiring harness disconnected... w/out forgetting anything.
Good luck!
Last edited by xxrillixx; 12-18-2010 at 01:21 AM.
#19
First time I removed the motor it was with a lift, so i was dreading doing it on the ground. Put it off for the longest time. I honestly believe it was easier this time, more because i was familiar with what needed to be done, then anything else. The hardest part is getting the wiring harness disconnected... w/out forgetting anything.
Good luck!
It's easier out the bottom. You won't regret it.