Supercharger options
12-20-2010, 06:40 AM
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Deedub is also running E85 which is huge with positive displacement blowers. Onebadcad barely made over 500 with a 383 H/C etc... on pump gas. Torque was almost 550-560 I believe but not HP. The 112 is just too small for big hp #'s on a 346. Hence why the 122 1900 and 2300 are now offered for vehicles still in production.
I spoke with Lingengfelter in regards to the 1900 kit they have and they do not do it out of house. You have to ship your car there which adds 500 or so to the 11K price for 500 rwhp. No thanks.
I spoke with Lingengfelter in regards to the 1900 kit they have and they do not do it out of house. You have to ship your car there which adds 500 or so to the 11K price for 500 rwhp. No thanks.
12-20-2010, 07:58 AM
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The flow charts for the TVS 2300 and any 2.3L twinscrew from Lysholm or Whipple are pretty close but the TVS blowers are a lot cheaper as they are used in more OEM applications. Only Mercedes and the Ford GT used Twinscrews from the factory due to cost constraints. The ZR1 uses the TVS 2300 rotor pack and the V2 uses the 1900 rotor pack.
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12-20-2010, 11:10 AM
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i went from a 600+ rwhp vortech c5 to a little over 400hp rwhp maggied cts-v and there is a big difference. But i will tell you one thing, the power is not anything like your 450 hp na combo. You have all torque right off idle, there is no waiting, no nothing. You think about accelerating and that is exactly what you are doing. Just an entirely different power sensation than na. Wouldnt trade it for a 550 rwhp na combo for the street. Just too much fun stoplight to stoplight.
12-20-2010, 03:11 PM
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My old 112 blower setup was a Speed inc SC2 cam, PRC stage 2.5 ls6 heads, kooks 1 7/8" headers and OD crank pulley was maxed out at 509hp to the tires.
It was super reliable, but no way in hell was it going to make 550rwhp. Past 5500rpm you could feel the car fall on its face.
I've told others this before, if you want 450-500rwhp with stock like driveability and reliability the maggie is great. If you want more power you need to look elsewhere.
12-20-2010, 04:24 PM
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Deedub is also running E85 which is huge with positive displacement blowers. Onebadcad barely made over 500 with a 383 H/C etc... on pump gas. Torque was almost 550-560 I believe but not HP. The 112 is just too small for big hp #'s on a 346. Hence why the 122 1900 and 2300 are now offered for vehicles still in production.
I spoke with Lingengfelter in regards to the 1900 kit they have and they do not do it out of house. You have to ship your car there which adds 500 or so to the 11K price for 500 rwhp. No thanks.
I spoke with Lingengfelter in regards to the 1900 kit they have and they do not do it out of house. You have to ship your car there which adds 500 or so to the 11K price for 500 rwhp. No thanks.
Made 490RWHP/480RTQ with stock LS6, Mag 112, 2.8" pulley, stock TB and mild cam upgrade.
Made 510RWHP/560RTQ with 383 (9.4:1), 225 AFR, bigger cam and same as above with unit overdriven.
Yep, no much in HP gains, some safety for now and an easy step up to 20psi one day.
12-20-2010, 05:32 PM
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damn i didnt know the 112 was so weak as far as when itd be maxed out. I apologize for questioning some people about it. I just firgured people werent putting together the right combos to really get what you could out of the 112.
I was thinking of saving for a maggie actually but now that i hear this im making more power now then i would if i spent 4500 on a maggie. I think ill just buy an fbody with that 4500 and make a faster car with just a cam and bolt ons.
I was thinking of saving for a maggie actually but now that i hear this im making more power now then i would if i spent 4500 on a maggie. I think ill just buy an fbody with that 4500 and make a faster car with just a cam and bolt ons.
12-20-2010, 08:03 PM
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So I will have to change my heads and go with a tvs2300 then, only $600 difference between the 1900~2300. I know the gto TVS kit works but the wiper arm has to be re-engineered to work. Not as much space. Can some one verify how much room is needed to clear it? I was told 1/2" I was thinking about cutting down the cog belt pully to 1" giving me som 1/8" of clearence give or take. Just some ideas.... There has to be a way to make this work. I was also told that they no longer produce the mp122, is that true?
12-21-2010, 10:09 PM
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So what style heads do I need to pick up to run a TVS? The L92 are to big for my ls6 right? There has to be another option out there then the 3K MAST heads! Any input on this topic is welcome...
12-22-2010, 03:25 PM
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You gotta cut him a little slack.
