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01-24-2011, 02:23 PM
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I think alot are over estimating the C63. They trap around 110-113 on a good day. Stock V1 trap around 109 on a good day. With the Maggie you probably have 100rwhp more than stock and a **** ton of torque. I dont see you having a problem with a stock C63 from a roll.
Maggied V1's with headers and a cam trap around 116-118 but most dont even hook for the first 100+ft or just hop so you have to roll into the throttle. From a 2nd gear roll I am willing to bet you will do better than most are giving you credit for.
A C63 with Headers and a tune ($8250
) traps around 119. There are several vids of one with these mods losing to a V2 6speed that was stock. I dont know where guys are getting 114+ traps for a stock C63 from. Oh well bench racing is retarded anyway. 
Maggied V1's with headers and a cam trap around 116-118 but most dont even hook for the first 100+ft or just hop so you have to roll into the throttle. From a 2nd gear roll I am willing to bet you will do better than most are giving you credit for.
A C63 with Headers and a tune ($8250
) traps around 119. There are several vids of one with these mods losing to a V2 6speed that was stock. I dont know where guys are getting 114+ traps for a stock C63 from. Oh well bench racing is retarded anyway. the modded c63 race people talk about often is just a stock c63 racing a stock cts-v. not sure how a car that traps 119 would get walked that hard by a v2.
v1's in general with a stock rear put down some **** poor trap speeds and most maggie only cars are in the lower 400 range as far as hp, maybe in the 420-450 range. and have you tried to walk a v1 down the strip stock to get a 109 trap speed? most are in the 105 range stock. maybe driven by a select few or a magazine would you see that 109-110 range stock.
the c63 does trap with decent driver in the 114 range, he should just go and race him. i think its not going to be the walking you think he would put on the c63. lets see how much of a difference a maggie and a clutch helps.
01-24-2011, 02:52 PM
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where are you finding these 116-118 maggie cars with his mods? saying it should run x or y because it has a maggie isnt really proof of anything.
the modded c63 race people talk about often is just a stock c63 racing a stock cts-v. not sure how a car that traps 119 would get walked that hard by a v2.
v1's in general with a stock rear put down some **** poor trap speeds and most maggie only cars are in the lower 400 range as far as hp, maybe in the 420-450 range. and have you tried to walk a v1 down the strip stock to get a 109 trap speed? most are in the 105 range stock. maybe driven by a select few or a magazine would you see that 109-110 range stock.
the c63 does trap with decent driver in the 114 range, he should just go and race him. i think its not going to be the walking you think he would put on the c63. lets see how much of a difference a maggie and a clutch helps.
the modded c63 race people talk about often is just a stock c63 racing a stock cts-v. not sure how a car that traps 119 would get walked that hard by a v2.
v1's in general with a stock rear put down some **** poor trap speeds and most maggie only cars are in the lower 400 range as far as hp, maybe in the 420-450 range. and have you tried to walk a v1 down the strip stock to get a 109 trap speed? most are in the 105 range stock. maybe driven by a select few or a magazine would you see that 109-110 range stock.
the c63 does trap with decent driver in the 114 range, he should just go and race him. i think its not going to be the walking you think he would put on the c63. lets see how much of a difference a maggie and a clutch helps.
A stock V1 will run neck and neck with a e39 m5 which traps 109-110. Track times for the V are misleading as when you are at half throttle pedalling it the first 150 feet it affects your trap speed as well.
He should be making 420-450 just like you said. C63 puts down in the 385 range and weighs 200lbs more. It should be a good race from a roll and I give the edge to him. Like I said bench racing is retarded anyway. HP to weight favors him, its simple math. But like Chris Berman says, "thats why we play the games."
And I would never waste my time drag racing this car. Kind of like wiping before I ****. Whats the point.
01-24-2011, 03:43 PM
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sorry about the 540rwhp i meant 440rwhp. its was 2am here when i wrote that.
the guy i bought the car from bought it as an accidented car from texas and imported it here to montreal. it was already moddified when he bought the car and said he believed it was cammed as well but didnt have any proof. anyhow he had the single mass flywheel and clutch installed and thats it. the car in in a warehouse for winter storage right now, but as soon as springs comes around ill have it on a dyno for sure. i have an aem universal meth kit lying around that i could install as well and have it tuned for the cooler iat ill get.
im not a trying to bench race here. as i said hes in chicago right now so we cant race till the summer. i just want to know what others think and what others have seen or done against a c63. like i originally stated, if i could afford one, i would have bought one. i would buy the c63 over a new v2. and hopefully in 2 years he will want to sell it and ill buy it for sure and maybe i can convince him to get it tuned before i do, haha not really, but ya.
im just having a hard time believeing that his stock c63 will beat my maggied ls6 from a roll. the math doesnt make sense. i know anything can happen on the street but 9 out of 10 times, i think i should pull him from a roll. from a dig is completely different.
i wasnt expecting this many comments about this but its great, keep them coming. has anyone else raced any amg or m series recently?
the guy i bought the car from bought it as an accidented car from texas and imported it here to montreal. it was already moddified when he bought the car and said he believed it was cammed as well but didnt have any proof. anyhow he had the single mass flywheel and clutch installed and thats it. the car in in a warehouse for winter storage right now, but as soon as springs comes around ill have it on a dyno for sure. i have an aem universal meth kit lying around that i could install as well and have it tuned for the cooler iat ill get.
im not a trying to bench race here. as i said hes in chicago right now so we cant race till the summer. i just want to know what others think and what others have seen or done against a c63. like i originally stated, if i could afford one, i would have bought one. i would buy the c63 over a new v2. and hopefully in 2 years he will want to sell it and ill buy it for sure and maybe i can convince him to get it tuned before i do, haha not really, but ya.
im just having a hard time believeing that his stock c63 will beat my maggied ls6 from a roll. the math doesnt make sense. i know anything can happen on the street but 9 out of 10 times, i think i should pull him from a roll. from a dig is completely different.
i wasnt expecting this many comments about this but its great, keep them coming. has anyone else raced any amg or m series recently?
01-24-2011, 05:34 PM
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edit: PS....mine went 109.85 to be precise. Figured that was close enough to say 110.
01-24-2011, 06:12 PM
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hey that was my goal when i went. i just have to get more practice in with the car. or be less fearful when i launch.
01-24-2011, 07:25 PM
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even if he has a tune and exhaust if you race from 20 to 110 you can win anything higher than that and you will get your *** handed to you my friend had one an 09 and that was the only way i could beat him those things are monsters on top end and i traped 109.87 with a time of 13.75 
horrible wheel hop his best was a 12.40 @114
horrible wheel hop his best was a 12.40 @114
01-24-2011, 07:58 PM
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ya i know they are monsters. but they are monsters that have been held back by mercedes so that they wont beat the heavier bigger more expensive models. thats why his car being stock, i thought i would pull him from a roll , not kill him but pull him for sure.
i sure if he gets tuned ($3500, worth it in my opinion) he will beat me. but i really doubt he will as he bought the car for his girlfriend, and like i posted before he will be getting a porsche,vette or something like that next year if he finishes the season strong.
114 mph is fast for a stock c63. definately possible with good conditons. but im sure i can trap at least 115-117 with my car. my old 87gn was trapping 115mph and 12.41 with a 60' of 1.66 i believe. that was a few years back, but im sure my v is faster than my gn was. anyways i dont know if ill get video of the race but i will definately post the results. video would be bonus for sure but i dont have a video camera, and i suck with computers! anyway whatever will happen i will post. i have nothing to hide, i just hope i will take the win for all the v1 owners. and maybe if i beat him, that will convince him to get the tune done on his car, and then i can drive it. that would be best case scenario.
so no one on the board has race any of these c63 beasts before? its what cadillac would want us to do!
ICECREAM: are those times with your current setup with the maggie? arent some stock v1's trapping 109mph?
i sure if he gets tuned ($3500, worth it in my opinion) he will beat me. but i really doubt he will as he bought the car for his girlfriend, and like i posted before he will be getting a porsche,vette or something like that next year if he finishes the season strong.
114 mph is fast for a stock c63. definately possible with good conditons. but im sure i can trap at least 115-117 with my car. my old 87gn was trapping 115mph and 12.41 with a 60' of 1.66 i believe. that was a few years back, but im sure my v is faster than my gn was. anyways i dont know if ill get video of the race but i will definately post the results. video would be bonus for sure but i dont have a video camera, and i suck with computers! anyway whatever will happen i will post. i have nothing to hide, i just hope i will take the win for all the v1 owners. and maybe if i beat him, that will convince him to get the tune done on his car, and then i can drive it. that would be best case scenario.
so no one on the board has race any of these c63 beasts before? its what cadillac would want us to do!
ICECREAM: are those times with your current setup with the maggie? arent some stock v1's trapping 109mph?
01-24-2011, 09:32 PM
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ya i know they are monsters. but they are monsters that have been held back by mercedes so that they wont beat the heavier bigger more expensive models. thats why his car being stock, i thought i would pull him from a roll , not kill him but pull him for sure.
i sure if he gets tuned ($3500, worth it in my opinion) he will beat me. but i really doubt he will as he bought the car for his girlfriend, and like i posted before he will be getting a porsche,vette or something like that next year if he finishes the season strong.
114 mph is fast for a stock c63. definately possible with good conditons. but im sure i can trap at least 115-117 with my car. my old 87gn was trapping 115mph and 12.41 with a 60' of 1.66 i believe. that was a few years back, but im sure my v is faster than my gn was. anyways i dont know if ill get video of the race but i will definately post the results. video would be bonus for sure but i dont have a video camera, and i suck with computers! anyway whatever will happen i will post. i have nothing to hide, i just hope i will take the win for all the v1 owners. and maybe if i beat him, that will convince him to get the tune done on his car, and then i can drive it. that would be best case scenario.
so no one on the board has race any of these c63 beasts before? its what cadillac would want us to do!
ICECREAM: are those times with your current setup with the maggie? arent some stock v1's trapping 109mph?
i sure if he gets tuned ($3500, worth it in my opinion) he will beat me. but i really doubt he will as he bought the car for his girlfriend, and like i posted before he will be getting a porsche,vette or something like that next year if he finishes the season strong.
114 mph is fast for a stock c63. definately possible with good conditons. but im sure i can trap at least 115-117 with my car. my old 87gn was trapping 115mph and 12.41 with a 60' of 1.66 i believe. that was a few years back, but im sure my v is faster than my gn was. anyways i dont know if ill get video of the race but i will definately post the results. video would be bonus for sure but i dont have a video camera, and i suck with computers! anyway whatever will happen i will post. i have nothing to hide, i just hope i will take the win for all the v1 owners. and maybe if i beat him, that will convince him to get the tune done on his car, and then i can drive it. that would be best case scenario.
so no one on the board has race any of these c63 beasts before? its what cadillac would want us to do!
ICECREAM: are those times with your current setup with the maggie? arent some stock v1's trapping 109mph?
01-24-2011, 10:27 PM
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A bunch of these guys? I thought you said a few posts above that it was a select few?
EDIT: I see now that it was someone else who said that. Sorry!
My 1st trip to the track w/ the V, & prob my 1st time running ANY car down the strip in 2+ years.
1st pass:
2.195 60'
13.675 @ 105.65
2nd pass:
1.970 60'
13.110 @ 109.85
3rd pass:
2.044 60'
13.327 @ 106.65
4th pass:
2.023 60'
13.330 @ 108.83
5th pass:
1.969 60'
13.234 @ 108.98
If you take all 5 runs & average the MPH, it comes to 107.992
If you take away my 1st pass (was worried about breaking the rear) it averages out to 108.577
Either way you look at it, 60% of my runs were 109+.
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Thinking about it more....
Take another look at my 1st pass that night.
1st pass:
2.195 60'
13.675 @ 105.65
I was scared I was going to break the car, so I babied it off the line. I'd bet that's why you see so many timeslips just like this one.
Either bad weather, wheelhop, or a fear of breaking the car (can't blame 'em) is why you see all of the mid 13's @ 105mph. I'd bet if I drove it like I stole it & powershifted & such it would have gone a 12.9 @ 110 or 111.
Take another look at my 1st pass that night.
1st pass:
2.195 60'
13.675 @ 105.65
I was scared I was going to break the car, so I babied it off the line. I'd bet that's why you see so many timeslips just like this one.
Either bad weather, wheelhop, or a fear of breaking the car (can't blame 'em) is why you see all of the mid 13's @ 105mph. I'd bet if I drove it like I stole it & powershifted & such it would have gone a 12.9 @ 110 or 111.
01-24-2011, 11:02 PM
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thats exactly whats confusing me guys. if a stock v1 can average 108mph stock. im pretty sure a maggied,exhaust, clutch can trap over 115mhp. and stock c63 probably average 112-113mph. so in a roll race not a 1/4mile drag from a dig, im sure i, or any other similarely modded v1 should hold its ground with a decent driver. i know theres only one way to really find out but that will have to wait some time sadly. oh well any guys from down south with maggied v1's wanna go try and find some c63's to run. alot of contreversey here so lets try to settle it for now!
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thats exactly whats confusing me guys. if a stock v1 can average 108mph stock. im pretty sure a maggied,exhaust, clutch can trap over 115mhp. and stock c63 probably average 112-113mph. so in a roll race not a 1/4mile drag from a dig, im sure i, or any other similarely modded v1 should hold its ground with a decent driver. i know theres only one way to really find out but that will have to wait some time sadly. oh well any guys from down south with maggied v1's wanna go try and find some c63's to run. alot of contreversey here so lets try to settle it for now!
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You're also not taking into account that the auto in that Merc is gonna shift way quicker than you ever will.
Like I said, have no clue who will win, but I sure do wanna see it!
Like I said, have no clue who will win, but I sure do wanna see it!
01-24-2011, 11:42 PM
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ya , its gonna be a long winter waiting for this one to happen. one of my buddies has video camera that we could borrow so ill ask him to come in his dads 36 ford hot rod. its mental guys. its a real street car with a/c,stereo,rumble seat etc... with a 1100hp blown aluminum hemi. last year he ran a best of 9.4? and he drives the car everywhere. its nuts, ill try to get him to do it.
ive looked all over and cant find any videos of v1's against c63's. a few with stock v2's pulling on stock c63's but that it.
i have a few lt1 parts laying around that i put up for sale that ill use to buy some headers just to be safe. this thread has me all worked up now and my cars is parked in a warehouse till april 1st. o well ill install some headers and my meth kit and get her tuned for the big race.lol im doing all this to try and beat a stock 4 door sedan! never thought this would happen, but i like it!
ive looked all over and cant find any videos of v1's against c63's. a few with stock v2's pulling on stock c63's but that it.
i have a few lt1 parts laying around that i put up for sale that ill use to buy some headers just to be safe. this thread has me all worked up now and my cars is parked in a warehouse till april 1st. o well ill install some headers and my meth kit and get her tuned for the big race.lol im doing all this to try and beat a stock 4 door sedan! never thought this would happen, but i like it!
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01-25-2011, 08:55 PM
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when i raced john from a dig he would leave me like i was in a civic but from a 20 roll i would get about half a car on him and every time i would shift he would jump up by 1/4 id keep the lead on him until about 115-120 then he would just pull away very easily and those times were with my current set up first and only time putting her on the track made three passes and that was my best spun from first thru third horrible wheel hop not really a 1/4 mile driver
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If your buddy with the C63 lives in Chicagoland like you mentioned though, I'd be happy to administer a beat down on him since I'm local.
The guy with the C63 in KY is probably still wondering WTF happened. The best part was he weaved through traffic like a maniac to come pick on me. 
They're pretty quick cars and look mean as hell. I wouldn't underestimate what they're capable of, even in stock form. Last edited by gnxs; 01-25-2011 at 09:30 PM.