518 RWHP NA wasn't enough..... out with the old......
03-18-2012, 11:44 PM
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Look at Skydiver...even though I love his V1, and think its an absolute monster. But a bone stock V1 will run a 13.5' 1/4 with the average drive at the wheel. He easily has $30,000+ dollars in the build, and I believe his best 1/4 is 11.64. And I have seen and read about similar V1s going low 11s. It I was in my car for that much money, I would be hoping for more then 11s. 800+ hp, ~4000 pounds, and $50k should net you way more then low 11s IMO. I.E...look at the V2, weighs more but a 550 whp V2 will run in the 10s...
The flip side to that is, if you are building a street car...and I would not want more then mid (maybe high) 600s at the wheels in a street car. But that just me, since I like to be able to use first gear and not spin off my tread.
03-19-2012, 12:10 PM
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I used to have the menatlity that a cars potential is only measured in straight line performance, I have since matured.
Cam was awful big for a daily driver, stuck in traffic etc... wife hated it too. Torque down low wasnt in the same zipcode as it will be with the whipple too.
Cam was awful big for a daily driver, stuck in traffic etc... wife hated it too. Torque down low wasnt in the same zipcode as it will be with the whipple too.
03-19-2012, 12:37 PM
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As long as I don't get below a 115* lobe center, I could probably go 6-8* more duration on the intake and 2-4* more on the exhaust before impacting driveability, but right now, with gas prices as they are, I'll be leaving it alone.
You probably remember my car. I had it (black '05) up there for the 102 throttle tune about the time you got yours back together with the LS3 heads.
What base manifold are you using with the Whipple? I thought that they only made the LS3 type.
03-19-2012, 06:13 PM
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That's why I went overly conservative on the cam in my V. It's more tractable as the stock LS6 was and has enough torque to make low gear completely useless at any aggressive throttle opening.
As long as I don't get below a 115* lobe center, I could probably go 6-8* more duration on the intake and 2-4* more on the exhaust before impacting driveability, but right now, with gas prices as they are, I'll be leaving it alone.
You probably remember my car. I had it (black '05) up there for the 102 throttle tune about the time you got yours back together with the LS3 heads.
What base manifold are you using with the Whipple? I thought that they only made the LS3 type.
As long as I don't get below a 115* lobe center, I could probably go 6-8* more duration on the intake and 2-4* more on the exhaust before impacting driveability, but right now, with gas prices as they are, I'll be leaving it alone.
You probably remember my car. I had it (black '05) up there for the 102 throttle tune about the time you got yours back together with the LS3 heads.
What base manifold are you using with the Whipple? I thought that they only made the LS3 type.
03-19-2012, 10:08 PM
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Its because if it is not done right, it is.
Look at Skydiver...even though I love his V1, and think its an absolute monster. But a bone stock V1 will run a 13.5' 1/4 with the average drive at the wheel. He easily has $30,000+ dollars in the build, and I believe his best 1/4 is 11.64. And I have seen and read about similar V1s going low 11s. It I was in my car for that much money, I would be hoping for more then 11s. 800+ hp, ~4000 pounds, and $50k should net you way more then low 11s IMO. I.E...look at the V2, weighs more but a 550 whp V2 will run in the 10s...
The flip side to that is, if you are building a street car...and I would not want more then mid (maybe high) 600s at the wheels in a street car. But that just me, since I like to be able to use first gear and not spin off my tread.
Look at Skydiver...even though I love his V1, and think its an absolute monster. But a bone stock V1 will run a 13.5' 1/4 with the average drive at the wheel. He easily has $30,000+ dollars in the build, and I believe his best 1/4 is 11.64. And I have seen and read about similar V1s going low 11s. It I was in my car for that much money, I would be hoping for more then 11s. 800+ hp, ~4000 pounds, and $50k should net you way more then low 11s IMO. I.E...look at the V2, weighs more but a 550 whp V2 will run in the 10s...
The flip side to that is, if you are building a street car...and I would not want more then mid (maybe high) 600s at the wheels in a street car. But that just me, since I like to be able to use first gear and not spin off my tread.
He might not be as big of drag racing as you are...there are many high hp cars (of all types) that never hit the strip. just driving from a to b might be joy enough. who knows.
03-19-2012, 10:21 PM
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Ok LiquidDouche...
#1...I never questioned that Skydiver liked his car. Because I am sure he loves his car more the I do. And I think that it is a sick machine.
#2...Skydiver put a full DRAG suspension on his car, so he must be a fan of running the 1/4.
#3...Certain mods will take away the DD/point A to point B ability of a car. And 402 LS2 with all the **** he has on his car does not seem like it will be a DD ready Cadillac.
#4...I have never questioned nor told anyone how to spend their money. I stated my opinion on what the OP is doing, and how I would feel. You, what you do on forums, state opinions and give advice.
#5...You are a complete fucktard, that needs to just give up on life.
To Skydiver (if you read this), I mean no disrespect to you or you car. I was just using it as a comparive model for the OP.
To veee8, good luck with your build and my apologies for the momentary thread jack. I will be watching how this shapes up. I hope the car turns out nice at the end of the build.
#1...I never questioned that Skydiver liked his car. Because I am sure he loves his car more the I do. And I think that it is a sick machine.
#2...Skydiver put a full DRAG suspension on his car, so he must be a fan of running the 1/4.
#3...Certain mods will take away the DD/point A to point B ability of a car. And 402 LS2 with all the **** he has on his car does not seem like it will be a DD ready Cadillac.
#4...I have never questioned nor told anyone how to spend their money. I stated my opinion on what the OP is doing, and how I would feel. You, what you do on forums, state opinions and give advice.
#5...You are a complete fucktard, that needs to just give up on life.
To Skydiver (if you read this), I mean no disrespect to you or you car. I was just using it as a comparive model for the OP.
To veee8, good luck with your build and my apologies for the momentary thread jack. I will be watching how this shapes up. I hope the car turns out nice at the end of the build.
03-20-2012, 09:22 AM
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It's 218*/232* with .595/.608 on a 118* lobe center, ground with no advance. The lift is conservative for valve spring life. I installed it with 4* of advance to pick up some low end.
It's idle characteristics are very close to the stock LS6, just a bit milder.
Makes around 380 lbs/ft @ 1800 rpm and has an extremely wide torque curve, making gear selection not as critical as a more radically cammed motor. Several Mustangs have been extremely heartbroken by this.
03-20-2012, 02:36 PM
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I used to have the menatlity that a cars potential is only measured in straight line performance, I have since matured.
Cam was awful big for a daily driver, stuck in traffic etc... wife hated it too. Torque down low wasnt in the same zipcode as it will be with the whipple too.
Cam was awful big for a daily driver, stuck in traffic etc... wife hated it too. Torque down low wasnt in the same zipcode as it will be with the whipple too.
The s/c will spoil you for sure.
