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Old 08-06-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Onefast V
Stick the car in 4th gear and crank. If that's not enough have someone also stand on the brakes.

I would order the belt tensioner from Magnuson. It's now much beefier and comes in an 8 rib, in case you ever go that route.

I did try 1 and 3 gear and it still turned. I will try 4th. Just seems like I may damage something internal pulling on it like that. In regards to pushing the brakes...how does that help since the car is on the ground and not moving anyway?
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You are going to have to have someone stand on the brakes to loosen the crank bolt. FYI - get an ARP crank bolt to replace the OE one, they require much less torque than the TTY crank bolt from GM.

Do you have the tensioner extension plate from the Maggie kit? If you do, you can order the style tensioner that is used by Maggie through Gates for $50. If not, get the Maggie setup, it will be much easier than piecing everything together.
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Originally Posted by DMM
You are going to have to have someone stand on the brakes to loosen the crank bolt. FYI - get an ARP crank bolt to replace the OE one, they require much less torque than the TTY crank bolt from GM.

Do you have the tensioner extension plate from the Maggie kit? If you do, you can order the style tensioner that is used by Maggie through Gates for $50. If not, get the Maggie setup, it will be much easier than piecing everything together.
I didn't have the plate, yet ordered the gates tensioner, not knowing I needed the plate. Thus, the tensioner will be sent back. I ended up ordering the kit from Magnuson.
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I needed at least a 3 foot breaker bar to get the crank bolt loose.
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Originally Posted by soulja
I did try 1 and 3 gear and it still turned. I will try 4th. Just seems like I may damage something internal pulling on it like that. In regards to pushing the brakes...how does that help since the car is on the ground and not moving anyway?
if it's in gear, then its connected to the driveshaft and therefore to the wheels. A long breaker bar 4th gear and someone on the brakes and you will get it off. don't forget to put a soft landing place for the breaker bar for once the bolt gives way.
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Here's what I did.
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I borrowed my neighbors cheater pipe and the bolt came off surprisingly easy. It turned so smooth that I thought the pulley was still turning. Only took one arm too to pull on it too.
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Hey man, if you want a 2.6 pulley for that, give me a shout. Brand new, never used from pulley boys.
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Hey man, if you want a 2.6 pulley for that, give me a shout. Brand new, never used from pulley boys.
I'll definitely think about it.

On another note, where can I find a TPS extension harness and a fuel line extension?
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Originally Posted by soulja
I'll definitely think about it.

On another note, where can I find a TPS extension harness and a fuel line extension?
I would just extend the existing harness. Cut and solder, will probably take about 90 minutes.

You can make your own fuel line extension using the Dormon fuel line repair ends, reinforced rubber high pressure fuel line, and double clamps.

Edit: Actually, I may have my old Maggie extension harness as my Maggie went on an LS2. Let me look around down in the shop and see if I still have it. If I have it, its yours as long as the guy that got my Maggie doesn't want to hold onto it. I'll let you know.

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Originally Posted by DMM
I would just extend the existing harness. Cut and solder, will probably take about 90 minutes.

You can make your own fuel line extension using the Dormon fuel line repair ends, reinforced rubber high pressure fuel line, and double clamps.

Edit: Actually, I may have my old Maggie extension harness as my Maggie went on an LS2. Let me look around down in the shop and see if I still have it. If I have it, its yours as long as the guy that got my Maggie doesn't want to hold onto it. I'll let you know.
I will look into that. Is there a specific gauge of wire for the extension of the TPS? Would the wrong gauge affect the signal? I will have to do the same for the ECT connector as that seams to not reach back to the throttle body also.
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Originally Posted by soulja
I will look into that. Is there a specific gauge of wire for the extension of the TPS? Would the wrong gauge affect the signal? I will have to do the same for the ECT connector as that seams to not reach back to the throttle body also.
Sorry man, looked around and could not find it, I may have given it to the guy that got my old Maggie. I did find the LS6 snout and his old fuel rail that I have to send to him though.

If memory serves me correctly, it is 16-18 gauge wire. I think I used 14 ga. (that is what I had at the time) when I extended the LS2 harness and the wire was almost double the size. Wire is not going to be the issue here, the connections will be. Make sure your joints are good and heat shrink them.
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Originally Posted by DMM
Sorry man, looked around and could not find it, I may have given it to the guy that got my old Maggie. I did find the LS6 snout and his old fuel rail that I have to send to him though.

If memory serves me correctly, it is 16-18 gauge wire. I think I used 14 ga. (that is what I had at the time) when I extended the LS2 harness and the wire was almost double the size. Wire is not going to be the issue here, the connections will be. Make sure your joints are good and heat shrink them.
No Problem. I will pick up some wire and get to work on the connections. Per the installation is looks like the Purge Solenoid connection and IAT is stretching around the back of the engine to get to the other side of the maggie. Is that correct. This will let me know how much wire I should add to those two. As for the TPS that pretty obvious how long it is.
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Correct. It really is not too much. I would get one roll of however they sell it (20 ft. Etc) and some black flex tubing from Harbor Frieght so it looks factory. Zip tie the flex to the engine harness that runs under the front of the Maggie so it does not get chewed up by the pulley. If you don't already have it, it takes a standard GM IAT sensor connector and 99 Camaro LS1 sensor.
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Originally Posted by DMM
Correct. It really is not too much. I would get one roll of however they sell it (20 ft. Etc) and some black flex tubing from Harbor Frieght so it looks factory. Zip tie the flex to the engine harness that runs under the front of the Maggie so it does not get chewed up by the pulley. If you don't already have it, it takes a standard GM IAT sensor connector and 99 Camaro LS1 sensor.
Yep, I plan on getting the flex tube and wire. I have a harness that connect off of the maf connector and splits off for the IAT, so I won't have to cut it. As for the purge solenoid connector, don't I have to just extent the existing one? What is the LS1 sensor for that you are referring to. Also, what is the fitting that is sticking out the side of the maggie on the passenger side next to the purge solenoid. It screws into the side of the maggie. I don't see it in the instructions.
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Lookin' good boss!!


I know you already got it, but I when removing my balancer, I put mine in 4th and had no problems.

Back wheels were on ground if that matters.
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Originally Posted by soulja
Yep, I plan on getting the flex tube and wire. I have a harness that connect off of the maf connector and splits off for the IAT, so I won't have to cut it. As for the purge solenoid connector, don't I have to just extent the existing one? What is the LS1 sensor for that you are referring to. Also, what is the fitting that is sticking out the side of the maggie on the passenger side next to the purge solenoid. It screws into the side of the maggie. I don't see it in the instructions.
The IAT sensor is from a 99 LS1 Camaro...if you ever need to source another one. That's what I was talking about. Sorry for any confusion.

You are correct about the purge connector, cut the connector off, extend the wiring (I run the purge solenoid wires in the black tubing with the IAT wires since they are so close together) and reconnect color for color.

Not sure what you are referring to about the fitting...there are two fittings on the snout for the purge and PVC lines if I recall correctly. Can you post a picture of what you are referring to with a call-out?
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The little black thing sticking out on the left side on the fuel rail in this picture from 1BADCTS

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Umm...that is what is left of the Maggie kit fuel line extension. The rubber hose was cut just prior to the double clamp and quick disconnect fitting. Use the OE fuel line disconnect tool to disconnect the fitting and you will see what I mean. This is the same fitting that attaches to the OE fuel rail.

When sourcing the parts to make an extension line, use the existing female line fitting that you now have, and purchase a male fitting that will go into the OE female quick disconnect fitting.

Also, you want that braided fuel line that goes from one fuel rail to the other to go over top of the supercharger...the jack-shaft will rub it through if you don't.

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