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Group Buy Opportunity: McLeod RXT Twin-Disc 1000 HP Ceramic Clutch

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Old 01-23-2013, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dhctss
Im seriously thinking to jumping on this. My ? Is what flywheel should I get and is a slave cylinder included? I just keep reading these are the best clutch hands down. Also is it all balanced alreay and ready to install. Thanks Thurday I will have funds and when those answered I think Im gonna get it. Thanks
A slave cylinder is not included, but you can easily get the PowerTorque CS2529 slave from O'Reilly for less than $100. I've been beating on it with my LS7 clutch and flywheel for 15,000 miles now with no complaints. A lot of CTS-V guys use it too.

With regards to the flywheel, I've been telling people that if they want a steel flywheel, the McLeod is a no-brainer at only $35 more than the competition. McLeod flywheels are top-quality. That said, it's hard to mess up a steel flywheel and I doubt you'll ever notice the difference.

The aluminum flywheels are a different story. For the people with cars that actually use (or abuse) the full capabilities of the McLeod RXT, the cheaper Spec and Fidanza aluminum flywheels have actually been known to exhibit scorch marks from drag racing that extends all the way through the replaceable steel friction area and to the other side of the flywheel. Based on the amount of power our cars make, I doubt we'll have that particular problem, but after talking to McLeod engineering, I'm going to bite the bullet and get their flywheel anyway. Sounds like a work of art, honestly.

Now with regards to the conceptual question, "which type of flywheel should I get," the answer totally lies in your unique driving application. If you drag race and/or desire confident and quiet starts from a stop, get one of the 33 lb steel flywheels. If you're an autocrosser, have a big motor, or are willing to finesse every start in order to achieve the greatest amount of power from your engine, get the 13.5 lb aluminum flywheel.

As you may have recognized based on the math I did earlier, reducing the rotational inertia of your drivetrain means that less of your engine's torque output goes into overcoming that inertia and goes into making you accelerate faster. It won't affect your peak power, but for the guys that want more area under the curve (the dynamic region of the graph), aluminum is the way to go.
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Hey Guys, We are going to have the deadline set for Friday for those committed to the group buy. Payment will be due by Tuesday.

Once we have the list of who wants what, I will message everyone about payment. Either I will send a Paypal Invoice or we can accept CC payments. For a CC payment on a large purchase for those who havent bought from us, Ill require an email or faxed driver's license that matches the billing address of your CC.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to PM, EMail or call me.

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As you know, I'm in for the McLeod RXT, McLeod aluminum flywheel, and McLeod pilot bearing. LS2 motor with 26-spline T56 transmission. By the way, do you need our input regarding whether its the big pilot bearing or the small one, or do you know that already?

Regarding payment, if you have a preference (especially with regards to the Paypal payment category), please let us know.
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Let me know what everyone needs for the Pilot Bushing. Correct me if I am wrong; but from what Mcleod is telling me Either a CTS-V transmission as well as certain trucks need the larger extended on such as this: P/N 8617



F-Bodies use the standard style GM like this: P/N 8-1094-1

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Also, Paypal is preferred but CC is fine as well.
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In for McLeod RXT
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Ew. Neither of those look right. Are those solid bushings? We have the large bearing assemblies identified by this thread:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...-vs-small.html

If McLeod doesn't sell pilot bearings, I advise using standard GM pilot bearings instead. Most of us will NOT want a bushing. More info:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...s-bearing.html

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I have an extra bearing, new in package. My clutch I just bought came with one. $10 shipped to US. GM p/n 12557583. Don't know if this "kit" comes with hardware, but I also have ARP Flywheel and Pressure Plate bolts if anyone wants em. $40. p/n 134-2201 and p/n 330-2802. Monster informed me these will not work with Monster Clutch/Flywheels...determine McLeod fitment.
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That's what I feel like I or Mike need to call McLeod about. If we need their bushing instead of the stock bearing, fine. As long as we know for certain, we're good. If ten guys pull their transmissions and only then find out that they don't have the right part, people are going to be (rightfully) annoyed.
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Yea I talked to two McLeod Reps who have been helpful in the past; and that is what they told me. But if there is any doubt it would be better to get the GM ones that are confirmed to work.

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so for the Gen I cts-v, is it 12557583 that is required (pilot bearing)?
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The pilot bearing will not change from what we run stock! The pilot bearing is installed in the crank, and that does not change. For an LS6 1st gen V you need the larger pilot bearing! I cannot speak for the ls2 guys. Ask me how monster insisted they sold me the right bearing
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Originally Posted by vmapper
so for the Gen I cts-v, is it 12557583 that is required (pilot bearing)?
Yes that is the larger bearing and the one you need (LS6) Im personally not sure about the LS2 whether or not it changed.
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Weird...the Pilot Bearing Monster supplied me is identical in size to the one I purchased before I bought my Clutch. The only difference is the inner material (urethane?) on the Monster is black, and on the GM it is a brown/red.
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Just chiming in to say that my LS6 V had the pilot bearing 12557583 when I replaced my clutch.
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what slave would you run with this clutch kit? Stock LS6 or LS7 Shimmed?
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Originally Posted by HR2L
what slave would you run with this clutch kit? Stock LS6 or LS7 Shimmed?
As I've said at least once or twice: the PowerTorque CS2529, which is basically a nicely-constructed OEM LS7 slave. Do not reuse your stock slave. Not only is it not long enough, I believe the stock CTS-V throw-out bearing is a little bit narrower than the LS7 throw-out bearing, which can lead to uneven clutch disengagement and light vibration when you lightly depress the clutch pedal.

As far as shims are concerned, I've got the Tick 3-piece shim kit standing by. I don't expect to need it, but I'll be taking measurements just to be sure. Measure twice, cut once.
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times like this i wish i didn't just have to buy valves, head gaskets, timing set, and brakes



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