2014 CTS leaked
03-24-2013, 05:31 PM
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2014 CTS leaked Pictures of the 2014 Cadillac CTS just leaked ahead of the car’s scheduled debut at the 2013 New York Auto Show.
Predictably, Cadillac’s mid-size sedan is adopting the same styling cues as the ATS and XTS. None of the pictures give a full-body view of the car, but noteworthy changes include the tall LED headlights and fog lights you see here.
While the exterior changes shouldn’t come as much of a surprise, the CTS looks like it’s shaping up to be a much more luxurious vehicle. One of the photos shows the car’s interior door panel and hints at that in doing so.
While the typical General Motors buttons are still in place, wood, leather and Alcantara inserts are all visible.
GM also announced last week that the CTS will have a twin-turbo V6 under the hood with 420 hp and 430 lb-ft of torque.
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...how-debut.html
Predictably, Cadillac’s mid-size sedan is adopting the same styling cues as the ATS and XTS. None of the pictures give a full-body view of the car, but noteworthy changes include the tall LED headlights and fog lights you see here.
While the exterior changes shouldn’t come as much of a surprise, the CTS looks like it’s shaping up to be a much more luxurious vehicle. One of the photos shows the car’s interior door panel and hints at that in doing so.
While the typical General Motors buttons are still in place, wood, leather and Alcantara inserts are all visible.
GM also announced last week that the CTS will have a twin-turbo V6 under the hood with 420 hp and 430 lb-ft of torque.
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...how-debut.html
03-24-2013, 06:08 PM
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Looks pretty sharp. But I can't see a motor in the CTS making a jump like that, seems very drastic. As far as the V goes I bet it stays practically the same with some retuning to squeeze out a little more power safely.
03-24-2013, 07:02 PM
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Wow the headlights are long. I'll have to see the whole vehicle before I decide how I feel about it. Rear doesn't look nearly as aggressive and the past. But I guess dual 4" pipes could change that. We'll have to wait and see
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03-25-2013, 11:14 AM
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I think the reason for the cap is because cadillac is putting the cts against the 5 series so the cts-v v6 tt will be put up against the 550i. At least thats my take on it.
03-25-2013, 11:56 AM
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Considering the ATS-V will be the M3 fighter, an ATS-V with only 420hp will not be enough to combat a newer M3, while the older M3 which outputs 420hp and weighs in at just about 3700lbs range... cuts mid 12s at ~112mph thanks to its DCT transmission more then anything. ATS-V is going to need low 12s @ 115+mph. Thats what a V2 cuts, brand new. Newer ATS-V might end up being somewhere in the neighborhood of 3700lbs after all options, etc... and with just 420hp, isn't going to cut it vs even the old M3 DCT, IMO. A 500hp version of the ATS-V would be exactly what you'd need to beat the M3 at that weight.
I doubt the newer CTS-V will have less then 556hp. If it did, it would be career suicide for whoever is in charge of that market. I expect it to make significantly more... not just 580hp either. The older gen M5 made 500hp out of a NA V10 and put down numbers very close to the CTS-V in terms of trap and ET both. In comparison for the new M5 vs the '09 V...
2013 BMW M5 (DCT) 0-60 3.7 sec 1/4 mile 11.9 sec @ 120.3 mph
2011 Cadillac CTS-V 0-60 4.0 sec 1/4 mile 12.3 sec @ 117.7 mph
Their best bet will not be to equal the high 11s at 120 (which is impressive for a sedan) and what we've seen from lightly modded V2s, but it will be to beat it and although you can probably best ET with a lighter car, you will need power to best trap IMO.
Considering if they remove 200lbs from the current curb weight for the V model... They'll need 600hp or more to significantly best the car and be noticable in any side by side comparison test vs a BMW M5 DCT.
While the V2 was noted as 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, this was in the coupe... in good conditions, with an excellent driver. On average, the V2 was 0-60 in 4.2... just like the V1 was normally 0-60 in broken-axle, instead of the 4.7 advertised. LOL. It needs to have the power to best its competition while being easily accessible and able to put down the power. I think the performance division has learned alot since the V1, and don't see that as being an issue. I would expect this new generation of V to put down even more power. 400hp, 556hp, ____hp?
I doubt the newer CTS-V will have less then 556hp. If it did, it would be career suicide for whoever is in charge of that market. I expect it to make significantly more... not just 580hp either. The older gen M5 made 500hp out of a NA V10 and put down numbers very close to the CTS-V in terms of trap and ET both. In comparison for the new M5 vs the '09 V...
2013 BMW M5 (DCT) 0-60 3.7 sec 1/4 mile 11.9 sec @ 120.3 mph
2011 Cadillac CTS-V 0-60 4.0 sec 1/4 mile 12.3 sec @ 117.7 mph
Their best bet will not be to equal the high 11s at 120 (which is impressive for a sedan) and what we've seen from lightly modded V2s, but it will be to beat it and although you can probably best ET with a lighter car, you will need power to best trap IMO.
Considering if they remove 200lbs from the current curb weight for the V model... They'll need 600hp or more to significantly best the car and be noticable in any side by side comparison test vs a BMW M5 DCT.
While the V2 was noted as 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, this was in the coupe... in good conditions, with an excellent driver. On average, the V2 was 0-60 in 4.2... just like the V1 was normally 0-60 in broken-axle, instead of the 4.7 advertised. LOL. It needs to have the power to best its competition while being easily accessible and able to put down the power. I think the performance division has learned alot since the V1, and don't see that as being an issue. I would expect this new generation of V to put down even more power. 400hp, 556hp, ____hp?
That said, I feel ATS-V is going to need more then 420, and CTS-V3 is going to need above 600 to be competitive with what might be coming out very soon.
03-25-2013, 06:42 PM
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More pics just leaked, now you can see the whole car. I'll reserve judgment till I can see it in person.
http://m.autoblog.com/2013/03/25/201..._river_article
http://m.autoblog.com/2013/03/25/201..._river_article
03-26-2013, 12:04 PM
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I'm hoping ATS-V will make 500hp, and CTS-V will make 600-650hp. Otherwise, at what I think curb weights will be, they will lose the battle to the germans.
