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05-30-2017, 09:45 PM
#701
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What temps are your fans set to come on.
on the 07 model, the "with ac" cal was much lower that the "ac off" cal from the factory. When my ac was broken a few summers ago and I drove windows down hvac off in traffic I could smell the hot coolant smell and temps got up to 220.
I set my ac off table to match the ac on table an now I never see over 200 in the same conditions. This is with no other changes.
just something to consider/check.
good luck
on the 07 model, the "with ac" cal was much lower that the "ac off" cal from the factory. When my ac was broken a few summers ago and I drove windows down hvac off in traffic I could smell the hot coolant smell and temps got up to 220.
I set my ac off table to match the ac on table an now I never see over 200 in the same conditions. This is with no other changes.
just something to consider/check.
good luck
05-30-2017, 09:52 PM
#702
Originally Posted by PLA TME
What temps are your fans set to come on.
on the 07 model, the "with ac" cal was much lower that the "ac off" cal from the factory. When my ac was broken a few summers ago and I drove windows down hvac off in traffic I could smell the hot coolant smell and temps got up to 220.
I set my ac off table to match the ac on table an now I never see over 200 in the same conditions. This is with no other changes.
just something to consider/check.
good luck
on the 07 model, the "with ac" cal was much lower that the "ac off" cal from the factory. When my ac was broken a few summers ago and I drove windows down hvac off in traffic I could smell the hot coolant smell and temps got up to 220.
I set my ac off table to match the ac on table an now I never see over 200 in the same conditions. This is with no other changes.
just something to consider/check.
good luck
I compare my tables vs the 07. I doubt any difference as i am also runnin efilive os upgrade for the fans
05-31-2017, 12:29 PM
#705
Can you show us what the difference is between the newer and older style thermostats is? If you're going off the Lingenfelter P/N table I sent you, I think the 174 degree thermostat (L310155307) is form and fit identical to the older style and would be willing to drop $35 to prove it. However, I don't see why the "new" model would flow any different to the "old" model.
Based on my experience building 1.2-2.5 kW watercooled PCs (I've had several in the top 35 in the 3DMark hall of fame), the surface area of the radiator and the airflow affect temperature a hell of a lot more than water flow rate or the presence of additives. Granted, with PCs, you're not running a huge load of artificial ingredients like you are in cars. So that could be a factor here. If you're running this thing in Kuwait, you definitely don't need a 50/50 Dexcool mix and should probably consider a custom mix of just distilled water plus RMI-25.
The other thing I would look into is getting the thickest radiator core you can fit under the hood, with 3000 CFM+ pusher fans and custom brackets. It's on my to-do list, but low on priority relative to getting the 427 LSX bought and installed. However I'd be willing to work with you if we can get Don Davis to design us a proper one with AN fittings and a condenser with the plumbing on the correct side.
Based on my experience building 1.2-2.5 kW watercooled PCs (I've had several in the top 35 in the 3DMark hall of fame), the surface area of the radiator and the airflow affect temperature a hell of a lot more than water flow rate or the presence of additives. Granted, with PCs, you're not running a huge load of artificial ingredients like you are in cars. So that could be a factor here. If you're running this thing in Kuwait, you definitely don't need a 50/50 Dexcool mix and should probably consider a custom mix of just distilled water plus RMI-25.
The other thing I would look into is getting the thickest radiator core you can fit under the hood, with 3000 CFM+ pusher fans and custom brackets. It's on my to-do list, but low on priority relative to getting the 427 LSX bought and installed. However I'd be willing to work with you if we can get Don Davis to design us a proper one with AN fittings and a condenser with the plumbing on the correct side.
Last edited by FuzzyLog1c; 05-31-2017 at 01:40 PM.
05-31-2017, 12:55 PM
#706
Originally Posted by FuzzyLog1c
Can you show us what the difference is between the newer and older style thermostats is? If you're going off the Lingenfelter P/N table I sent you, I think the 174 degree thermostat (L310155307) is form and fit identical to the older style and would be willing to drop $35 to prove it. However, I don't see why the "new" model would flow any different you to the "old" model.
Based on my experience building 1.2-2.5 kW watercooled PCs (I've had several in the top 35 in the 3DMark hall of fame), the surface area of the radiator and the airflow affect temperature a hell of a lot more than water flow rate or the presence of additives. Granted, with PCs, you're not running a huge load of artificial ingredients like you are in cars. So that could be a factor here. If you're running this thing in Kuwait, you definitely don't need a 50/50 Dexcool mix and should probably consider a custom mix of just distilled water plus RMI-25.
The other thing I would look into is getting the thickest radiator core you can fit under the hood, with 3000 CFM+ pusher fans and custom brackets. It's on my to-do list, but low on priority relative to getting the 427 LSX bought and installed. However I'd be willing to work with you if we can get Don Davis to design us a proper one with AN fittings and a condenser with the plumbing on the correct side.
Based on my experience building 1.2-2.5 kW watercooled PCs (I've had several in the top 35 in the 3DMark hall of fame), the surface area of the radiator and the airflow affect temperature a hell of a lot more than water flow rate or the presence of additives. Granted, with PCs, you're not running a huge load of artificial ingredients like you are in cars. So that could be a factor here. If you're running this thing in Kuwait, you definitely don't need a 50/50 Dexcool mix and should probably consider a custom mix of just distilled water plus RMI-25.
The other thing I would look into is getting the thickest radiator core you can fit under the hood, with 3000 CFM+ pusher fans and custom brackets. It's on my to-do list, but low on priority relative to getting the 427 LSX bought and installed. However I'd be willing to work with you if we can get Don Davis to design us a proper one with AN fittings and a condenser with the plumbing on the correct side.
The new style is 56mm dia, the old is 54. The heights are different and the bottom dia is also different.
I have both and toyed with the idea of borin the old wp to accept the new stat...
06-06-2017, 07:27 AM
#708
I toyed with the thermostat and cover from the new style GEN 4 engines on the older GEN three it will work I just need to make a 5 mm spacer that will fit in there and then redo the holes on the thermostat housing to fit property I however have a very small problem the clearance between my fan and thermostat housing is too close on mine and I am unable to add the 5 mm spacer to make use of the new style thermostat I will only get a 160 stat and hope that it works properly with my set up
06-07-2017, 10:33 AM
#709
Last night I did a quick and dirty Dyno tune just so that I can get the air fuel ratio to where its suppose to be
car drivability is much better, I just need to adjust the lower maf settings so that my air fuel ratio is perfect throughout.
I turned off my LTFT and my STFT which resulted in my idle being much better.
car drivability is much better, I just need to adjust the lower maf settings so that my air fuel ratio is perfect throughout.
I turned off my LTFT and my STFT which resulted in my idle being much better.
06-08-2017, 01:00 AM
#710
Took my girl for a nice drive to work, could be a DD if i find a way to quiet her down.
Great response, and just keeps you pinned in your seat till i let off the gas.
Now, all i have to do is adjust the shocks where i am increasin the rebound a little, and leave her be.
She is ready to tackle what i put in front of her...
Next week i will flush out the rad fluid, and insert my cocktail. Then drain the oil, and add some new Pennz 5w30 ultra. After 5000km i will drain the tranny and diff and refill with new oils.
Great response, and just keeps you pinned in your seat till i let off the gas.
Now, all i have to do is adjust the shocks where i am increasin the rebound a little, and leave her be.
She is ready to tackle what i put in front of her...
Next week i will flush out the rad fluid, and insert my cocktail. Then drain the oil, and add some new Pennz 5w30 ultra. After 5000km i will drain the tranny and diff and refill with new oils.
06-14-2017, 05:29 AM
#713
Talk about a labor-intensive jobs
for me to change the thermostat I had to remove the radiator fan shroud and radiator to give me access to the thermostat but changing the engine oil was a breeze
All in all took us four hours to remove everything and flush out the old water and coolant and put a new coolant 40/60 ratio and oil
We tightened up all the loose bolts and Sunday should be ready to roll on the road again
for me to change the thermostat I had to remove the radiator fan shroud and radiator to give me access to the thermostat but changing the engine oil was a breeze
All in all took us four hours to remove everything and flush out the old water and coolant and put a new coolant 40/60 ratio and oil
We tightened up all the loose bolts and Sunday should be ready to roll on the road again
06-14-2017, 11:27 AM
#715
Originally Posted by jmilz28
Awesome work, man! Congrats! Glad you've got her on the road again. Makes my couple of months seem reasonable by comparison.
Plus this car is everything I preach about and tge way i think...
