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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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The cost is reduced airflow through the radiator, the actual quantity is unknown (to me at least) but it wouldn't make sense to me to reduce underhood temps a few degrees at the cost of a less efficient cooling system (higher internal engine heat).
So I guess the reason I haven't noticed an increase in operating temperature would be....?

Your theory is sound and if this mod had cost any money or had been difficult to correct, I wouldn't have done it. But the results don't support your theory unless there are other factors at play or the loss in airflow was so slight it was negligible.

I have noticed the need to clean the engine compartment more often though....
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 10:20 PM
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I found the link to the data that I referenced in my original response.

http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/fantemps.html

If you look at the settings you should see that when stationary they are trying to keep the coolant between 219F and 226F.

If you go above 35mph, the fans turn off, and don't turn back on until you slow down or the coolant hits 246F.

I don't know why they chose to design for that high of an operating temp, but it was deliberate.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1247
So I guess the reason I haven't noticed an increase in operating temperature would be....?

Your theory is sound and if this mod had cost any money or had been difficult to correct, I wouldn't have done it. But the results don't support your theory unless there are other factors at play or the loss in airflow was so slight it was negligible.

I have noticed the need to clean the engine compartment more often though....
I don't have the answer, just sharing why I wouldn't do it on my car. It just doesn't make sense and since I am all stock in front of the cats, I see no reason to worry about underhood temps.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by isis
I don't have the answer, just sharing why I wouldn't do it on my car. It just doesn't make sense and since I am all stock in front of the cats, I see no reason to worry about underhood temps.
Cooking everything under the hood makes no sense to me. Baked wiring harnesses and crumbling plastic makes for a car that can be hard to work with so I see no reason to take that chance if there is an easy out. I have a feeling that decreasing under hood temps wouldn't hurt on the dyno either.

I think the air flow issue you've pointed out is definitely an issue on cars without much frontal area for air flow....meaning Vettes and older F-bodies. But comparing the grill openings on the V1 with the "open" surface area of the radiator, I don't think removing the weatherstrips had any noticeable affect on the cooling system because the radiator is getting all the fresh air it can handle.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1247
Cooking everything under the hood makes no sense to me. Baked wiring harnesses and crumbling plastic makes for a car that can be hard to work with so I see no reason to take that chance if there is an easy out. I have a feeling that decreasing under hood temps wouldn't hurt on the dyno either.

I think the air flow issue you've pointed out is definitely an issue on cars without much frontal area for air flow....meaning Vettes and older F-bodies. But comparing the grill openings on the V1 with the "open" surface area of the radiator, I don't think removing the weatherstrips had any noticeable affect on the cooling system because the radiator is getting all the fresh air it can handle.
I have no heat damage under my hood. Never have on any car but I've lived in PA my whole life.

GM plastic is brittle everywhere. I don't think that's a heat thing. They've always been like that.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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I don't know why they chose to design for that high of an operating temp, but it was deliberate.
Most claim it is for reduced emissions. I don't have an answer myself. The sweet spot for hp seems to be around 210 degrees (at least with the LS2). However, a LOT of folks on this board seem to think cooler is better...
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Most claim it is for reduced emissions. I don't have an answer myself. The sweet spot for hp seems to be around 210 degrees (at least with the LS2). However, a LOT of folks on this board seem to think cooler is better...
I think I only see 210 sitting in traffic in August.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 04:30 PM
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It is warmer than I am used to with engines but it is what I have noticed and corresponds to what some of the better tuners suggest. That is why I am on the stock thermostat and have the fans programmed a little differently than stock.
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