Fortune Auto 500 series coilover CTS-V Gen 1 group buy interest
#22
I think that people are interested in better suspension, but right now I feel that Fortune Auto's offering is priced too close to the well-liked, TUV certified, double adjustable KW Variant 3. If Fortune Auto could get the price down closer to the single adjustable D2 and Ksport (which have a reputation of being poorly built) or if they could provide a double adjustable coilover kit in the price range of the KW Variant 3, there would probably be a lot more interest.
#24
Fortune 500 coilovers
I think that people are interested in better suspension, but right now I feel that Fortune Auto's offering is priced too close to the well-liked, TUV certified, double adjustable KW Variant 3. If Fortune Auto could get the price down closer to the single adjustable D2 and Ksport (which have a reputation of being poorly built) or if they could provide a double adjustable coilover kit in the price range of the KW Variant 3, there would probably be a lot more interest.
-KW warranty is not as good. (or does not exist depending on WHOM you purchase from)
-KW has zero spring options but what has been decided by whomever engineered the set for the CTS-V. (who makes KW springs?)
-KW does not offer any spring rate customize-ability.
-KW does not embrace the true coilover style. (already demonstrated by other members display of regret of cutting springs to alter ride height)
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its going to be tough to get interest with no hard numbers or data. sure i have interest in a true coil over setup that is OEM quality. but without hard data and pricing and something out there to see and touch and have 5000 test miles on it who knows how many people will want to pony up the cash.
#27
its going to be tough to get interest with no hard numbers or data. sure i have interest in a true coil over setup that is OEM quality. but without hard data and pricing and something out there to see and touch and have 5000 test miles on it who knows how many people will want to pony up the cash.
Thank you for your interest.
#28
Fortune-Auto coilovers will not be ksport or d2 pricing as they are not on the same level. This was merely to gauge interest for a better entry level coilover that is on par with kW v3 minus the dual adjustability but with much more customization available to suit your needs.
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I was honestly trying to sidebar the entire peanut gallery to hopefully focus on a more productive discussion.
-KW warranty is not as good. (or does not exist depending on WHOM you purchase from)
-KW has zero spring options but what has been decided by whomever engineered the set for the CTS-V. (who makes KW springs?)
-KW does not offer any spring rate customize-ability.
-KW does not embrace the true coilover style. (already demonstrated by other members display of regret of cutting springs to alter ride height)
-KW warranty is not as good. (or does not exist depending on WHOM you purchase from)
-KW has zero spring options but what has been decided by whomever engineered the set for the CTS-V. (who makes KW springs?)
-KW does not offer any spring rate customize-ability.
-KW does not embrace the true coilover style. (already demonstrated by other members display of regret of cutting springs to alter ride height)
I put comments next to each of your points.
-KW warranty is not as good. (or does not exist depending on WHOM you purchase from) - See below
-KW has zero spring options but what has been decided by whomever engineered the set for the CTS-V. (who makes KW springs?) - You can install any swift spring rate you want on these coilovers, which a few people have done for their own personal customization.
-KW does not offer any spring rate customize-ability. see above comment
-KW does not embrace the true coilover style. (already demonstrated by other members display of regret of cutting springs to alter ride height) - "true coilovers" on this platform is un-necessary and takes away from wheel width/widening options, which is crucial to getting the rear to hookup on these cars.
Here is the KW warranty information:
KW Suspension Warranty Terms and Conditions
Effective January 1, 2011. Supersedes all previous terms, policies, and agreements.
KW Automotive North America Inc. warranties its products to the original retail purchaser against defects in workmanship and material for the following terms from the date of purchase:
KW SUSPENSIONS:
Street Coilovers, Variant 1, Variant 2, Variant 3, Street Comfort – Limited Lifetime Warranty
Bushings, Bump stops and Ball Joints - 1 Year
Club Sport Coilovers, 2 way Race Coilovers, 3 way Race Coilovers – No Warranty
WARRANTY CONDITIONS & LIMITATIONS:
This warranty is NOT TRANSFERRABLE, is limited to the United States and its holdings, Canada and Mexico. This warranty does not apply to:
Any articles not purchased through authorized KW Automotive North America Inc. dealers.
Any articles that show signs of abuse, collision or improper installation.
OEM Equipment & Private label items produced by KW Automotive (warranty is carried by the private label company unless otherwise specified).
Any parts that are installed in vehicles that are used for race purposes, operated commercially, or used in off road conditions.
Any parts that have been sold with "No Warranty" designation on the original invoice.
Any parts that have been modified or altered in any way from its original configuration.
Any parts that have been:
Used in conjunction with non Non-KW Automotive North America Inc. approved Air Bag kits, sway bars, springs, control arms etc…
Installed improperly.
Used out of its published operating range or outside KW tested force ranges, i.e. Excessively lowered or raised vehicles.
CLAIM OBLIGATION:
KW Automotive North America Inc.'s obligation is limited to repair or replacement of the defective KW Automotive Inc. component only.
Warranty acceptance along with the corresponding replacement or repair of the KW Automotive component is at the discretion of KW Automotive North America Inc. engineering staff. KW Automotive North America Inc. is not responsible for any costs associated with the removal, replacement or shipping of the defective part, and under no circumstances will be liable for any costs or consequential damages that may be incurred.
KW Automotive North America Inc. is a progressive company that is continuously improving its product line. As such KW Automotive North America Inc. reserves the right to improve any and all of our products in materials or design without obligation to incorporate these changes in previously manufactured products.
CONSUMER CLAIM PROCEDURES:
In the interest of 100% Customer Satisfaction, we would request that before a warranty claim is submitted, please contact the KW Automotive Tech & Customer Service Department (phone: 1-800-445-3767, email: info@kwautomotive.com) to accurately diagnose the problem. This will ensure quick handling and resolution of your issue.
To process a valid warranty claim, contact the original place of purchase of your KW Automotive North America Inc. part along with the original receipt for a determination of claim. If the product cannot be returned to the original place of purchase, please call KW Automotive North America Inc by phone (1-800-445-3767) to request a Return Material Authorization number or RMA# and a tech sheet (if applicable).
Send the defective unit shipping prepaid along with the following documents:
Return Material Authorization number or RMA#
A copy of your original invoice
A copy of the completed brand specific tech sheet
Copy of the Vehicle's Registration certificate
IMPORTANT: Please clearly mark the package with the assigned RMA# for quick handling. KW will refuse unmarked shipments, or any shipments that are not prepaid. Once received, KW Automotive North America Inc will verify warranty coverage and will repair or replace the unit at our discretion, and shipped back to you UPS Collect.
NON-WARRANTY ELIGIBLE GOODS:
If a part is returned for warranty and is found to be not eligible for warranty, the customer will be given the following options:
The goods will be sent back on the next customer freight order or by their preferred method of shipping;
The goods will be disposed of at the customers expense (if any);
The goods will be put back into KW Automotive North America stock and a 15% restocking fee will be applied to the customer's account.
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Originally Posted by ls1247
I think a high quality non-coilover factory replacement would be embraced by a lot of us. Coilovers are great I'm sure but how many miles are you getting out of those before the collars sieze up or the body's wear out...they are aluminum correct?
#35
I would be interested and my car is close by if they need to see or use it. I live about 10 minutes from Powhatan and pretty sure I have met the owner before. Just don't remember his name.