Originally Posted by Vettin Man

PLEASE READ AND HEED---I have a very good friend of mine who had More Performance build a 427 for his Corvette. He has had all kinds of problems with the engine from the word go. MORE knew very well that they were gving him a piece of crap engine too because they even admitted to having several problems when they ran it prior to giving the final product to him. This guy is a complete car guy too, having several Corvettes as well as many other preformance cars. I would be more than happy to give you his phone number if you IM me. I would hate to see anyone else get treated the way he has. It has cost him tons of money to have this engine built, rebuilt, and continually worked on and STILL its not right. MORE Performance (what a play on words) has screwed him royally and doesn't care. Don't go there!!

And MORE Performance folks...I know you will see this so I will say this to you...screwing your customers WILL catch up with you in the long run.

Originally Posted by Bryan Wilkinson

Ok Obviously you didnt understand what I was saying and didnt read the earlier post. Lets have a small discussion about oil and its properties. Oil is rated by a Viscosity Index. You can review this for yourself by going to any oil manufactures web site. But to save time I will briefly discuss.

Mobile 1 5w-30 has a VI of 165
Mobile 1 10w-30 has a VI of 145
Mobile 1 0w-30 has a VI of 175
Royal Purple 5w-30 has a VI of 161. So much for the hype on this stuff.Everything else they have is less than this.
Red Line 5w-30 has a VI of 153 What a joke.
Red Line 5w-40 has a VI of 170, getting better. This is the best they have.
Amsoil 0w-30 has a VI of 196.

This is not stuff that I am making up. It is fact. All oil is government tested and you can see the specs on each companies site.

What do these numbers mean, they mean that the higher the number the more stable the oil is at its extreme temp range. Thus, if 10w-30 was put in the engine. He goes racing, The oil gets hot. It starts to thin out. So now he does not have the protection he had before and hince the low oil pressure. The oil pump had absolutely nothing to do with him losing pressure. I know this because I have first hand experience with this and I was just sitting in traffic. When I started the car, the idiot gauge was reading 75% pressure the was an accident on the interstate and as I sat after drving the car on the interstate, the oil Pressure dropped over the course of 60 miles down to about 25%. When I got stuck in stop and go traffic, the if I reved the engine the oil pressure came back up. but when I let off it was back down till finally it went into the red and cut the car off because the computer was protecting the car. After letting the car cool down for 2.5 hours, it was back up to 75%. Theory Proven. I am now using Amsoil and no longer have the problem. Do not even try to dispute any of this, it will not do you any good. fact is fact. Don't get all excited about this either, everyone that I have talked to about it, knew absolutely nothing about it.

Now back to him driving, he is at the track. Racing his car, oil is heating up, pressure is droping. Making the situation in the engine bad enough because he is racing. Hes not watching the gauge, because if he was he would have stopped. Any intelligent person racing their car, should be watching their oil pressure. Hince the reason for having all of those gauges in the car. They are not suppose to be just for looks. So now the belt comes off. Being that I do not know what his configuration was I will assume the belt driving the crank. If the belt came off and was at any RPM now the pistons are not under any type of control. What I was saying is that the rod could have been semi damaged at that point. Low oil pressure and belt coming off at high RPM. Then he wasn't finished, GO READ HIS EMAIL, he turned around and put the belt on and took off racing again. The Low Oil Pressure should have been enough to get him to stop and have it checked out. I can't believe any one would expect a shop to be resposible for this kind of stupidity.

Lets look at the facts.
1. He left the shop with a car that the computer had not finished going throuhgh the learning cycle.
2. I can almost guarentee he got on it before he got home, not allowing the engine to go through the 500-1000 mile burn in period for the rings and bearings.
3. He goes to the track, assumed that his oil pressure was ok, and went racing, probably without any type of oil pan with trap doors, his oil getting hot and getting thin. He's not looking at the gauge, and a belt comes off. The belt probably came off due to a resonance vibration at 4200RPM, and with oil pressure low and the belt coming off, probably caused a problem with a rod. so now he puts the belt back on, returns to racing, and boom.

No matter how many differnt way you or anyone else including himself talks about this, the fact remains and the main purpose of this thread was, he had an engine built, didn't upgrade the rest of his car to support the power, oil pressure ran low, he broke a rod and now he and everyone else thinks that More Performance should repair his engine due to his stupidity at no charge. NOT ONE SHOP ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES, CANADA or ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD would warranty his motor because he was RACING.

I truely hopes that this indeed clears this matter up for everyone. Lingenfelter, MTI, nor anyone else would cover it. Lingenfelter has a 2 year, 24000 mile warranty on their engines, but read the fine print, racing is not included.

Have a nice day.