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Old 05-31-2011, 08:09 PM
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I was wondering if there is a massive difference in mpgs from a HT1 cam and a stock lq4 cam. What would the power difference be like also? 214/218 .559/.562 111lsa
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it would probably depend more on how it was driven.
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That cam has much more overlap than the stock LQ4 cam, and will be detrimental to mileage. How much of a mileage hit is a guess.
- Should be a nice and punchy cam, though.
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Great topic, i am heavily thinking of yanking the LQ4 with the Trex out of the 89 RS in favor of a 5.3 with a tiny cam and 112 LSA along with a 750 VS to see if i can hit 30
MPG, i no longer street race so having a 6 speed street car is dulling down with so much lack of streetability, if my 5000 pound stock 5.3 powered trailblazer that is a moving brick gets 22 MPG on the highway, my 3150 pound aerodynamic 6 speed RS should get 30 or so i think.
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I have the HT1 cam in now. And i have the lq4 cam in box that came out of the motor. The cam does great. All except for the gas mileage. It smells like fuel at idle at 13.8 to 1 fuel ratio. I have it in my lq4 85 burb with fast ez efi. It pulls hard but i could use a few more mpg due to haveing to drive it 12 miles each way to work. If it wont make a huge difference i will keep the after market cam in. Drives great on street with a 18-2000 rpm stall and 700R4 4.10 gears. In 4th with converter locked it will do 1100 rpm threw town fairly smooth. Just looking to get rid on fuel smell.
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A tight LSA is not burning as much fuel at low RPM i think.
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Or should i say, not getting the most out of the fuel
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Or should i say, not getting the most out of the fuel
Hmmm i had thougt a tight lsa was better for carbs cause they had better signal to the carb or something like that. Is there any way to make is smell less like fuel?
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Originally Posted by 85LSburb
Hmmm i had thougt a tight lsa was better for carbs cause they had better signal to the carb or something like that. Is there any way to make is smell less like fuel?
yes, but the extra overlap does hurt MPG. it is real easy to do a cam swap, try the LQ4 cam, its only a couple hrs work, and may pay off in fuel ecconemy
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Find a small cam with a wide 114 LSA to get the most, it moves the power band up but it wont hurt the carb, a tighter LSA will bring power in faster and carbs do tend to like them, but nothing a street car would notice as far as maximum performance if it is mildly used for racing.
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Why 13.8 at idle?

Have you tried to get that up around 14.7
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I dont have a carb any more i swaped to an ez efi kit from fast. So i am not to worried about the lsa. But i need all the low end i can have due to the 6000 lbs my burb ways. I am scared to swap in the lq4 cam and loose a bunch of power and only get .5 mpg better. Is there any ignition up grades i can do to stop the smell and help mpgs?
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Originally Posted by topbrent
Why 13.8 at idle?

Have you tried to get that up around 14.7
The efi was set at 13.6 and i set it up to 13.8 and have not tried any other setting yet. Dont want to make it run too lean and idle bad.
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I would not be concerned with a lean condition. Go ahead and lean the idle mix out even more. You should be able to have that thing idle at 14.7-15.1'ish and be just fine. The software should allow you to richen the mixture at throttle tip-in, just off of idle to prevent a lean condition upon acceleration.
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I may play with it over the week end to see how it does. I can set the ratios at idle wot and cruse. The cruse comes in any throttle position over 0% and wot fades from cruse to wot at 50% or more in a linear fashion so at 75% it is half ways betten cruse and wot setting.
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what motor mounts did you use for the swap? do all your factory gauges work as well? got a build up on this thing?
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
what motor mounts did you use for the swap? do all your factory gauges work as well? got a build up on this thing?
03 LQ4 i used Dirtydingo mounts. They have 3 inches can go 1 forward and 2 back. Had a holley street avendger 670 but 5-7 mpg sucked. Ya have a build. The factory oil and temp work due to addapters i have.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=393076
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Find a small cam with a wide 114 LSA to get the most, it moves the power band up but it wont hurt the carb, a tighter LSA will bring power in faster and carbs do tend to like them, but nothing a street car would notice as far as maximum performance if it is mildly used for racing.
Hey zone,
Why do you want to go with a 5.3 now? do you feel like the 6.0 is too much or is it because you should have kept it stock or do you think its now too fast because its not stock?
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This is no hard fast rule, but in general, when cams get above 210 degrees at .050" is where fuel economy starts to drop off. I usually ran single pattern cams in those scenarios to keep the overlap low, but you could run a dual pattern as long as the spread is not too big.
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
This is no hard fast rule, but in general, when cams get above 210 degrees at .050" is where fuel economy starts to drop off. I usually ran single pattern cams in those scenarios to keep the overlap low, but you could run a dual pattern as long as the spread is not too big.
Mine is just a tad over that.


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