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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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I am curious where you guys have your idle timing at...from 0 to 1000 rpm?? I have a good starting point for the rest but some guys are saying they have 20+ degrees of initial. I have a hard time believing the motor turns over very well when you get that much timing (or more) when cranking 0 to ??? rpms. On the traditional SBC I use to only run about 12 degrees max (cranking/initial).
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Someone must be willing to share their results/experience???
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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I searched "timing curve".

This thread has some pertinent info on idle timing.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...l?ref=esp-link
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks. I have done searches before and don't remember that thread. There was some good info in there. I have seen posts before where guys say they are running 20+ degrees initial and I guess I did not understand if that was from 0 to 1000 (approx) or if they have to start out lower at 0 and ramp up to 20 at 1000 (approx)?? I was just looking for some clarification.
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Mine is 15* at 0 rpm, ramps to 28* at 500 rpm then it's at 32* from 800 rpm up
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Thanks for the info. That seems very aggresive?? I would never have guessed that those degrees were tolerable at them RPM levels.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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12 degrees from 0-500rpm

600-1000rpm is 24 degrees

1100-2900 is 38 degrees for better a/f ratio under cruise conditions, it really helped

3000-7400 is 34 degrees


converter is 3700 so it will flash past the lower rpm range so the higher timing is under a low load condition
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
12 degrees from 0-500rpm

600-1000rpm is 24 degrees

1100-2900 is 38 degrees for better a/f ratio under cruise conditions, it really helped

3000-7400 is 34 degrees


converter is 3700 so it will flash past the lower rpm range so the higher timing is under a low load condition
that is VERY close to how mine is setup. my engine seems to really like alot of timing at lower rpms, below where the cam comes on hard. I never load the engine at those low rpms, so I have not had any trouble with pinging, or deto.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
600-1000rpm is 24 degrees
1100-2900 is 38 degrees for better a/f ratio under cruise conditions, it really helped
That was another thing I was curious about...how many degrees you can change per 100 rpms. I would never have guessed you could go 14 degrees in 100 rpms.
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you can go 50 degrees in the software if you want
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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I knew you could do a lot in the software but I just wasn't sure if the motor could take such a dramatic change that quick.
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xpndbl3 are u using a map sensor with that timing curve??? if so how much map advance???
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no map presently, but I will be adding a few degrees here or there in the 35-55mph range on the map sensor under light throttle to clean it up and get a little better mileage as well. How much I won't know until next spring, car is getting a lot done to it this winter
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 06:09 AM
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I run all my stuff at 40 at idle. Just keep advancing it till the idel is the best.

Then I pull a little out above idle for cruse but leave most in it. The map pulls it out once it sees load.

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