Fuel pressure drop/bounce (FIXED)
#1
Fuel pressure drop/bounce (FIXED)
Heres the fuel system.
NON LIQUID FILLED GUAGE
Magnafuel quick star 300 pump
10AN supply to filter
Allstar filter threaded directly into pump
Pump
8AN bypass back to cell
8AN supply to regulator deadheaded per magnafuels instructions
Regulator connected directly to fuel rail
Fuel pressure guage directly into regulator
8AN vent
Presures. Bypass pressure is set at 18 psi. Regulator pressure is set at 7 PSI.
Heres the problem. Fuel pressure is perfectly stable at idle. Its stable during normal driving. Under full throttle acceleration is a different story.
The fuel pressure guage starts vibrating like crazy around the top of first gear and along with the vibrating the pressure proceeds to drop in second and third until it gets down around 3 psi by the end of the run. It seems to be getting worse. Now the car is nosing over around 6250-6500. When you let up on the throttle the pressure slowly rises and stablizies as you reach the end of the shut down.
This is the same fuel system I ran with my 775 hp big block. This is the first time ive ever had this issue.
I replaced the fuel cell vent with another new hose.
I cleaned the regulator, looked good inside
I had the pump rebuilt by magnafuel
I cleaned the fuel filter
There dosent seem to be any cavitating noises from the pump
Im kinda lost on this problem. Any help would be appreciatied. But fwiw, I ran the same time shifting at 6500 as I did at 7000 rpm. Glass half full, it means theres more in the car, lol. Thanks, Eric L
NON LIQUID FILLED GUAGE
Magnafuel quick star 300 pump
10AN supply to filter
Allstar filter threaded directly into pump
Pump
8AN bypass back to cell
8AN supply to regulator deadheaded per magnafuels instructions
Regulator connected directly to fuel rail
Fuel pressure guage directly into regulator
8AN vent
Presures. Bypass pressure is set at 18 psi. Regulator pressure is set at 7 PSI.
Heres the problem. Fuel pressure is perfectly stable at idle. Its stable during normal driving. Under full throttle acceleration is a different story.
The fuel pressure guage starts vibrating like crazy around the top of first gear and along with the vibrating the pressure proceeds to drop in second and third until it gets down around 3 psi by the end of the run. It seems to be getting worse. Now the car is nosing over around 6250-6500. When you let up on the throttle the pressure slowly rises and stablizies as you reach the end of the shut down.
This is the same fuel system I ran with my 775 hp big block. This is the first time ive ever had this issue.
I replaced the fuel cell vent with another new hose.
I cleaned the regulator, looked good inside
I had the pump rebuilt by magnafuel
I cleaned the fuel filter
There dosent seem to be any cavitating noises from the pump
Im kinda lost on this problem. Any help would be appreciatied. But fwiw, I ran the same time shifting at 6500 as I did at 7000 rpm. Glass half full, it means theres more in the car, lol. Thanks, Eric L
Last edited by Prorac1; 08-29-2014 at 02:10 PM.
#4
I tried 23 psi of bypass pressure, same results. I think if I have time tomorrow ill drain the cell and reseal the bulkhead fitting, check the filter, and inspect the short piece of 10 AN from the cell to the filter. Eric L
#5
Do you think it could be sucking air at the filter ?
Thinking it could be the seal is made for pressure Vs. vacuum ?
My filter is after my Aeromotive pump...same way it came out of a buddies 9.teens BBC car. Deadheaded, -8 line, Holley regulator, -8 to carb.
Thinking it could be the seal is made for pressure Vs. vacuum ?
My filter is after my Aeromotive pump...same way it came out of a buddies 9.teens BBC car. Deadheaded, -8 line, Holley regulator, -8 to carb.
#7
That is my filter. This is the same way I ran it with my big block. It's an oring seal.
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#9
I would close the bypass completely, and try it. To rule it out.
Edit: I'm assuming your fuel filter checks out. Thats obviously the first thing to check
Edit: I'm assuming your fuel filter checks out. Thats obviously the first thing to check
Last edited by 3pedals; 08-26-2014 at 06:22 PM.
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#12
The only other thing that I can think of other than a failing pump is electrical connections. My buddy's car just recently started doing that and he found a poor ground. He fixed that and it fixed the problem.
Oh, and one more thing. I have seen feed hoses from the cell to the pump get old and start to collapse inside under suction.
Oh, and one more thing. I have seen feed hoses from the cell to the pump get old and start to collapse inside under suction.
#13
The only other thing that I can think of other than a failing pump is electrical connections. My buddy's car just recently started doing that and he found a poor ground. He fixed that and it fixed the problem. Oh, and one more thing. I have seen feed hoses from the cell to the pump get old and start to collapse inside under suction.
The short supply hose IS old, and that was one of my thoughts as well. Thanks, Eric L
#14
Guess who just figured out that he installed his fuel filter cartridge backwards after cleaning and reinstalling it?
LOL at mmmself
Better track times coming soon, lol.
LOL at mmmself
Better track times coming soon, lol.
#16
I just went thru this sort of issue yesterday. Turns out my surge tank was not staying full and my fuel pump was starving and sucking air. Had a plugged fuel filter from the feed to the surge tank. Figured that out AFTER I bought a new Bosch 044 pump.
Check fuel filters guys! Lol
Check fuel filters guys! Lol
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It's deffinately much better. It doesn't seem to nose over on top end any more. The guage still bounces, which I think is just from how it's mounted on the cowl.
During the run, by the middle of third gear the pressure is down around 3 or 4 psi.
I checked the supply hose and it seemed to be fine on the inside and wasn't collapsing.
Is a slight pressure drop normal? I don't remember it doing this with the last motor.
Maybe it's time to replace the diaphram in the regulator?
It's deffinately much better. It doesn't seem to nose over on top end any more. The guage still bounces, which I think is just from how it's mounted on the cowl.
During the run, by the middle of third gear the pressure is down around 3 or 4 psi.
I checked the supply hose and it seemed to be fine on the inside and wasn't collapsing.
Is a slight pressure drop normal? I don't remember it doing this with the last motor.
Maybe it's time to replace the diaphram in the regulator?