Ls7 or ls9 cam?
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Ls7 or ls9 cam?
im putting together a 370罵q9, I have ls3 style heads with 64cc chambers.....with that said I think the compression is around 11.0:1/11.3:1 I知 thinking of going carb on this one I知 just curious if anyone has experience with this setup and if a ls9 or ls7 cam will work carbed , I知 assuming it would have to be single plane but not sure anyone got any suggestions........I have everything but the cam and valvetrain ready to go,just gotta go with a nice cam not trying to make a max effort.........just good fun!
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#4
Not sure I am qualified to answer that. Just figure it has a HUGE split, like it's 211/230 on the duration, plus a HUGE LSA, 122.5 deg. It WILL NOT LOPE. Your manifold gurus will be able to give you a good answer on that.
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Manifold Firing Order
Hi 74, the LS Firing Order was created, changed from 18436572, to work better when a Single Plane intake was fitted. (18726543)
Your Hendrick head works well with WIDE C/L camshafts.
Your C.R. of 11.3 works well with WIDE C/L camshafts.
My choice would be the LS-7 "late" camshaft.
I can provide the GMPP (Wegner + PML) intake AND a Holley Three BBL carb ?
Lance
Your Hendrick head works well with WIDE C/L camshafts.
Your C.R. of 11.3 works well with WIDE C/L camshafts.
My choice would be the LS-7 "late" camshaft.
I can provide the GMPP (Wegner + PML) intake AND a Holley Three BBL carb ?
Lance
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One thing you can do to make that camshaft perform notably better would be to advance it 4 degrees.
#7
Both of those camsahfts have a very late intake valve close event. So, in naturally aspirated 5.7-6.2 liter engines, they are going to have very poor torque and what to see a lot of RPM to perform well. Because of that, the dual plane manifold will perform much better below 7000 RPM.
One thing you can do to make that camshaft perform notably better would be to advance it 4 degrees.
One thing you can do to make that camshaft perform notably better would be to advance it 4 degrees.
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If you want a real cam recommendation, list everything about your build.
Vehicle
Vehicle weight
Engine size and type
Bore & Stroke
Compression ratio
Cylinder head model
Valve sizes and flow numbers if available
Intake manifold model
Exhaust system details - header size, full exhaust, race exhaust etc
Hydraulic or solid roller desired?
What rocker arm ratio?
What model lifter?
Do you already have valve springs? If so, what part number or specs?
Transmission
If auto, what RPM stall torque converter
Rear gear
tire height
How do you use the vehicle? Daily, weekend toy, street/strip, roll race, 1/2 mile, road course etc
What idle and drivability characteristics do you want?
Vehicle
Vehicle weight
Engine size and type
Bore & Stroke
Compression ratio
Cylinder head model
Valve sizes and flow numbers if available
Intake manifold model
Exhaust system details - header size, full exhaust, race exhaust etc
Hydraulic or solid roller desired?
What rocker arm ratio?
What model lifter?
Do you already have valve springs? If so, what part number or specs?
Transmission
If auto, what RPM stall torque converter
Rear gear
tire height
How do you use the vehicle? Daily, weekend toy, street/strip, roll race, 1/2 mile, road course etc
What idle and drivability characteristics do you want?
#9
If you want a real cam recommendation, list everything about your build.
Vehicle
Vehicle weight
Engine size and type
Bore & Stroke
Compression ratio
Cylinder head model
Valve sizes and flow numbers if available
Intake manifold model
Exhaust system details - header size, full exhaust, race exhaust etc
Hydraulic or solid roller desired?
What rocker arm ratio?
What model lifter?
Do you already have valve springs? If so, what part number or specs?
Transmission
If auto, what RPM stall torque converter
Rear gear
tire height
How do you use the vehicle? Daily, weekend toy, street/strip, roll race, 1/2 mile, road course etc
What idle and drivability characteristics do you want?
Vehicle
Vehicle weight
Engine size and type
Bore & Stroke
Compression ratio
Cylinder head model
Valve sizes and flow numbers if available
Intake manifold model
Exhaust system details - header size, full exhaust, race exhaust etc
Hydraulic or solid roller desired?
What rocker arm ratio?
What model lifter?
Do you already have valve springs? If so, what part number or specs?
Transmission
If auto, what RPM stall torque converter
Rear gear
tire height
How do you use the vehicle? Daily, weekend toy, street/strip, roll race, 1/2 mile, road course etc
What idle and drivability characteristics do you want?
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Speedtigger- Not to hijack this thread, but you mentioned advancing the LS9/LS7 cam 4 degrees to improve performance. With that done, how much power improvement would you see this cam giving an otherwise stock LS3? I know, there are FAR better cams... This is hypothetical.
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Speedtigger- Not to hijack this thread, but you mentioned advancing the LS9/LS7 cam 4 degrees to improve performance. With that done, how much power improvement would you see this cam giving an otherwise stock LS3? I know, there are FAR better cams... This is hypothetical.
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I am also interested in Speedtigger's comment on the 4 degree cam change. Since I have a stock LS3 with GM single plane intake and a LS7 cam. I am buying a new timing set I guess using one that I can advance or retard the cam would make sense. Do you know anyone that has run their cam advanced? Did it make more power?
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#14
What got my attention was that advancing it 4 degrees would make it NOTABLY (my caps) better. I guess we're all wondering, HOW notably? I doubt it will be earth-shaking, but when you can get the LS9 for about $150 new, bang-for-the-buck goes up NOTABLY too! lol
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Does anyone have dyno numbers on an otherwise stock LS3 with a 4-degree-advanced LS9 cam? I am VERY curious.
Unless Speedtigger comes along and can give a highly-educated guess on this.... if so, thanks in advance!
Unless Speedtigger comes along and can give a highly-educated guess on this.... if so, thanks in advance!
#16
do you already have ls3 cam? Is a ls9 cam that much cheaper than a stock ls3 cam?in one of my books Richard holdner pulled 497hp out of stock ls3 with the stock 400hp spec.cam....all just by fine tuning. ....so yeah is a ls9 cam really gonna do much better for d/d. $4$
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opps meant to say 430hp
#18
It would be a guess for sure. I would guess about 10 HP advantage for the LS9 cam.
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